Woman dies after riding Marine World tea cup ride

Great :( Just what we need anougher accident and i am sorry for the persons family.
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The article states, "No autopsy was performed."

Is one pending? Or isn't any going to be performed.

If none is performed, I believe the case ends right there. While it is logical to believe that the motion may have "triggered" the bleeding, with out an autopsy it is impossible to determine if it was the "cause" of the bleeding, or if it was the result of a preexisting condition. An autopsy may not even be able to determine that, but with out one, there is no way at all to know.

IF any action is to be considered by the family or authorities, then an autopsy NEEDS to be performed. If not, then in my uneducated opinion the case is closed.


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I frankly don't believe we need any research. Even as a non-doctor, I can find it reasonable and logical that motion of a ride could aggravate a condition like this. Amusement rides are a physical activity. Physical activities can cause things like this.

Say they do the research and arrive at this conclusion (and I'm sure they would). Then what? Tell everyone to stay home in a bubble?

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It's scary how delicate your brain can be. Who would ever imagine the teacups causing someone to die?

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Jeff said: "I frankly don't believe we need any research. Even as a non-doctor, I can find it reasonable and logical that motion of a ride could aggravate a condition like this."

Exactly my previous point (though perhaps I was not clear). A physical activity can AGGRAVATE a condition like this... but probably not CAUSE it.

I was simply stating that IF no autopsy is performed, then I do not see how any action could be comtemplated against the park or ride maker on the part of the family.

I am not giving parks and ride manufacturers carte blanche in accidents. There are some where they are truely at fault (the one Hymilaya fatality comes to mind). However, in MOST cases it is either carelessness on the part of the victim (if they are worker or guest) or some unavoidable accident brought on by some condition (heart attack, brain hemmorage, etc) that is either known or unknown by the rider, but could have happened on the ride or sitting on a bench.

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>A woman riding the Monkey Business tea cup-style ride at Six Flags Maring World

Maring ??


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Not to be cold but it is possible that she had other brain problems. How many tea cups across the world get ridden by hundreds of thousands of people each week even day. I Think it is safe to say she had to have some type of condition.

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Did it say how old the person was? if they were like 55 they might have a serious medical condition. every ride has signs to warn people that arent in top medical condition

Um, so she didn't get into a car, maybe even hit a pothole, or ride any other rides? This story is rediculous.

Man - this is starting to get riddiculous. Not to sound rude, but there has just been too many injuries and accidients this year. I wonder what type of other regulations we may begin to see come about.

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Well, this was probably just like the Goliaith lady, it was probably an existing condition.

I think that he meant to say Marine World.

Hmmm, maybe everyone should have a physical taken before entering the park. I feel sorry for the family. Not trying to be cold here, but does anyone expect a lawsuit to pop out of this one? IF this was because a previous condition, then i can't see how one could possibly find the park at fault. Now, I'm not saying that anyone said that..but it was her responsibility to have regular checkups to detect this kind of thing. Thats what checkups are for. If she knew about this before hand, then she was risking her health by riding the teacups. Same thing with the Goliath incident, if she had previous conditions, then she couldve done one thing. And that is see a doctor. Because if she had, there would be no Goliath tragedy. And if it turns out that this woman that died recently on the teacups had previous problems, then if she saw a doctor, it wouldnt have happened. Another thing, Jeff said "Say they do the research and arrive at this conclusion (and I'm sure they would). Then what? Tell everyone to stay home in a bubble?" That is an excellent point. What would it give them to find out that this was preexisting? If this didn't happen at the park, surely it would've happened somewhere else. If everyone wanted to be safe, then they can sit at home in a bubble, or take checkups before entering parks. And if it really matters, By riding a car, you take risks, by riding a bike, you take risks, by going on a thrill ride, you take equal, if not lesser risks, but when one dies in a car accident, it's just another day, if one dies on a ride at a themepark, then everyone is all over it, because the ride goes at "high speeds" or some bizarre excuse like that, people are so used to driving cars that they fail to realize that amusment parks are safer, or when a plane crashes everyone is shocked, but the only reason they are is because it rarley happens. 2Hostyl has an excellent signiture/quote that sums my point up in 1 sentance.


But all that aside, my prayers go out to her family.


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Don't the signs say, Ride at Your Own Risk?
The parks clearly state that attractions are highly intense and are not for everyone. People really do need to ride at their own risk. We don't need regulation ust because there are ride accidents.

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I kind of like the signs at HW (only been once so forgive the paraphrasing): "Engaging in all leisure activities involves some level of risk. Only you can determine whether your physical condition allows for you to accept the risks inherent in participating in these activities". My condolences to the woman's family. This seems to have definitely been unforeseeable, and no fault attributed to rider misconduct...

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gatorwoodie: Thanks for mentioning the HW signs. IMO, thats all that should be said, and if guests choose to ignore it, then oh well, they are responsible. I'm not saying that this particular woman ignored, or even knew about her health conditions, but its a possibility.

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"Thank you for challenging the Raging Bull. We hope you enjoy the rest of you're day, here at Six Flags Great America."

I agree with Craig, their are enough signs that warn possible riders which should not be ignored. Maybe parks need to higlight them in neon pink or yellow so they get noticed more...

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She just happen to be become a Statistic.
Just think how many times people rode that ride that day, and then she happen to have a medical condition that was fatal, was'nt the ride fault, but the news does not realize that.

The one thing that I *did* think was BS was the implication that this same thing would have happened if she was sitting on a bench. Let's be real, rides *do* things to people. Even tea-cup rides can get the blood to flow in 'strange' ways. I doubt very seriously that someone on a bench is exposed to the same Gs as someone in a spinning ride!

This is tragedy yes, even news worthy, but an unforseeable occurance of life (and by extension death). God rest her soul...
jeremy
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