Mantis valleys?

I thought I knew a lot and I thought wrong.

I just read on ************ that Mantis is one of the few B&M coasters that has valleyed. I was suprised when I read this. Is this true?

I also heard it was originally called Banshee. Was this just a code name?

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1. Yes, Mantis valleys occassionally. In fact, almost all coasters do. They usually happen during morning tests, where parks visitors don't see it.

2. No, the ride was actually going to be called Banshee, but female rights activists protested against it, so the park renamed it.

Yes it was called Banshee. I even have a few Banshee T-Shirts :)

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Sorry, I'm a simple person, can you remind me what is wrong with Banshee??

I can help you out with Banshee. No, it's not code. I was originally going to be called that. They even publicized with that name. Shortly after, religious people (sorry I'm sure on the specifics, but I'm thinking Native American or Wicka - sp?) protested against the name, and they changed it to Mantis. Hope this helps. :)

Oh, sorry if I wasn't supposed to put the name of the site.

Anyway, I realize that coasters valley but I thought that was Vekoma's specialty. Isn't B&M known for flawless designs? Also, if valleying was ever a problem, what's with the hideous trim brakes on the first drop?

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The whole explanation for the naming of the ride is explained here: [url="http://www.guidetothepoint.com/content.aspx?channel=22"

I'm not sure how to do url links so just copy and paste it into your browsers url.

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rentzy387 said:

Isn't B&M known for flawless designs?

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Here's the issue: Cold wheels, cold track, empty trains during test runs. In the morning, especially, B&M's can valley. Even the best engineering can't prevent *everything*

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Mantis is not the only B&M that has valleyed. Riddler has on more than one occasion. I'm sure there have been others.

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I believe Medusa - East has valleyed, and I vividly remember Superman: Krypton Coaster did as well. As well as Apollo's Chariot.

im not suprised about Mantis valleying....especially on those chilly mornings, even in the summer.....and, those beloved trims that Cedar Fair just loves to butcher their coasters with.....(sarcasm done)

Tim....whos in the group that things Mean Streak might be a great ride had it not been CF-ized.....

oh yeah....and Mean Streak was my 100th:)

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Oh man. I didn't know it happened that regularly.

I just thought it happened with many of the premier LIM coasters and GIB.

Thanks for all the help guys!

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Peter Soint said:

[referring to Banshee] I was originally going to be called that.

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Really?! [Insert CPNut joke here] :)

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When and where did The Chariot valley?

And Millennium Force has vallied at least once, as well - Yes, I know it's not a Beemer.

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MF? Valley? and i thought the coaster was just outright fast...oh well, Seeing Mantis and Riddler have those HUGE, slow inversions, im not surprised...(chang might have volleyed, MIGHT.)

MF valleyed with a half-full train on a cold day.... or so I've heard.

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MF never valleyed with riders.

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It valleyed before the third hill on the way out to the island. (MF did).

I wonder if TTD will ever valley. Wait a minute....

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aside from safety issues (:o) i really dont care if TTD valleys...itll still be better than S:TE IMO...as long as the launch serve as brakes (duh)

SD Said:

i really dont care if TTD valleys...itll still be better than S:TE IMO

Well seeing that you have ridden both of them I guess you could judge which is better. I think I am goign to wait to ride it before I decide which one is better.