Magnum's 1989 record

This has nothing to do with shuttles versus full-circuit. Guiness is the one handing out the records and I don't believe they make a distinction. Perhaps we should look to see what they say?

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Mamoosh - aka Trouble Boy!

Ahhh, Maggie....remember *cruising* into the turnaround at HIGH speed....now, it's still a good ride (albeit with TERRIBLE lapbars)....but not what it once was....*sigh*...

Agreed. I wish I could go back to '89 for a few days. I think I snagged 6 rides over a 2 day visit that year.

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- Peabody

Wow, harsh...those were the days. :)

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LocoBazooka--Sevendust, Nonpoint, Stereo Vent, Mushroomhead
Korn Tour (With no name)--Korn, Puddle of Mudd, Deadsy

I thought that the Magnum ran as well as it ever has this season.

It definitely is running the best I can remeber and I haven't missed a year since the begining. It's not as if CP just decided to add the trims. They have been there since 1989.

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All I need is 4.5 million bucks and a half a mile long sliver of land and maybe someone could build me my very own Shivering Timbers. ;)

While I'm not sure, many say the worlds first "true" hypercoaster was infact NOT Magnum or even the Moonsault Scramble, it was Yomiuriland's Bandit.

I know very little information about this coaster, but many people have said that it drops over 200 feet. RCDB claims that it opened in 1988, and is 68 mph. Depending on the builder, a coaster over 200 feet could reach speeds, as low as 68 mph. Also, they claim that ride is 5118 feet long, which is definatly worthy of a hypercoaster title.

Was this the first real hypercoaster? Was Magnum only the second coaster to top 200 feet? With the Bandit being at a small park in Japan, and information being scarce, it could be...

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--Dingo 65--
http://rct.ogresnet.com

Odd.

I've only been to Cedar Point twice, this year and 1998. In 1998, Magnum seemed to be a LOT smoother to me.

You haven't had enough rides then to say it's smoother or not. I get different rides in the same day. Magnum has more "personality" than any ride I know. Some days I'd almost say it sucks, other days I'd say it's the greatest ride ever built.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
"There's nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, when it's all in your mind. You gotta let go." - Ghetto, Supreme Beings of Leisure

I have a hard time believing Magnum could possibly have more personality than Mean Streak. Most days, I wouldn't almost say it sucks, I would say it. But right after a rain, when the brakes don't work very well...

Wow.

But, hey, whatever you say. As you pointed out, you have been on these coasters a lot more than I have.

*** This post was edited by (SF)Great American on 9/30/2002. ***

Totally Jeff, although my worst ride on Maggie is better then my best ride on every other coaster. After 100's of laps I still have yet to beat the one I got 2 friday nights ago. I have never had that much air ever in the ejector seat.

BTW smoother is relative. Sometimes I swear it has square wheels, other days it's as smooth as glass. It's always the best coaster I have ever rode. Although anymore with me and Maggie it's like an actual person. I love her LOL. I actualy speak of her as a person. Just like a car.

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All I need is 4.5 million bucks and a half a mile long sliver of land and maybe someone could build me my very own Shivering Timbers. ;)

Even though I can't approach you guys in terms of numbers of rides, I'm with you, Magnum Force. I even have a picture of her on my desk.

(What's that? Pathetic, you say? Well, she's been truer to me these past four years then any other girl...)

I believe the top of the structure on Scramble was 225' or some such, and the highest any part of the train got to was 208'. The trick was that the average train height was only ever 180' or so.

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Dingo 65 said:

While I'm not sure, many say the worlds first "true" hypercoaster was infact NOT Magnum or even the Moonsault Scramble, it was Yomiuriland's Bandit.

I know very little information about this coaster, but many people have said that it drops over 200 feet. RCDB claims that it opened in 1988, and is 68 mph. Depending on the builder, a coaster over 200 feet could reach speeds, as low as 68 mph. Also, they claim that ride is 5118 feet long, which is definatly worthy of a hypercoaster title.

Was this the first real hypercoaster? Was Magnum only the second coaster to top 200 feet? With the Bandit being at a small park in Japan, and information being scarce, it could be...

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How does it being 5,000+ feet long make it "worthy of a hypercoaster" title? A hyper-coaster is defined by HEIGHT and DROP that measures 200' and higher. NOT length, airtime, or anything else.

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Lord Gonchar said:
"I'm surprised that it took someone so long to mention Moonsault Scramble - let the never ending debate continue!

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Add how well is Magnum running? :) I guess it's within the topic as we're talking 1989 & its life.

Pity Fright Time is still down, it would have pics & info of Bandit.

Wow, how did I miss that post before? ding 65, if you are going to talk about Moonsault Scramble, then you are defineitely wrong. It opened in 1983, long before your 1988 opening for Bandit.

I understand your comment about length being worthy of a hypecoaster: That's about how long Magnum is. Actually, I think Magnum's a little shorter. But remember: Mean Streak is considerably shorter (in height) than Magnum, and has more than a mile of track. And, in it's day, went only a bit slower than this Bandit you speak of. Things to ponder...

*** This post was edited by (SF)Great American on 10/1/2002. ***

If memory serves, Mr. Kinzel went to Japan and rode the Bandit before giving the go ahead for Maggie.

An interesting point, Geoffrey Thompson, Managing Director (ie CEO) of Blackpool Pleasure Beach went to the US and rode Maggie. After his ride he called Arrow and said, "get me one of those."

Years ago, Cedar Point had a policy of sending out full time employees on "paid vacations" to go to various amusement parks and see what was going on, industry trends and so forth. It hasn't happened in quite some time but it is something that wouldn't hurt all of the park companies.