Coasters that leave the track?

the thrill

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:55 PM

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stoogemanmoe

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:59 PM
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GhettoCoaster said:

What if they invent invisible paint and paint a huge gap in the track with it and people will think that its a gap but its not bc of the invisible paint!

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CRVeck

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:05 PM

The closest you could get to it would be to make teh track a very small diamater, to make it seem like they are flying, but when it "rejoins" it spreads again

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Lord Gonchar

Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:23 PM
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Wait! Could this idea work? Stick with me here...

Mamoosh already mention some of the hybrid water coasters that can successfully and safely thread on and off of track. So it's possible with standard sitdown type cars/trains. If it's possible with sitdowns, could it be possible with inverteds? If so, the track below you ends just after you've threaded onto track above you, giving the illusion of flying off the end of the track. After a inverted second half, the train returns to the station where it threads back onto the track below the train to do another run.

Anyone follow that?

I first thought about this in that late 80's as a kid after I'd heard about Iron Dragon. I also figured there was no safe way to do it and kind of never really thought about it much after that. But we do have coasters capable of threading on and off of track today. I don't know enough about the mechanics of things to elaborate, but it seems if the technology is there to thread below the car, then threading above must be a possibility. Combine the two and you have it!

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BogeyMon

Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:26 PM

I read a book called Hopper about a coaster that jumped off and re-entered like you said.


I think the book was "Jumper" by Richard Barth. Amazon described it as a beach book; it was certainly a turn-off-your-brainer. If the NTSB really sent buxom blondes to check out roller coaster wrecks, I bet there'd be more of them. I'd only recommend the book to see if one of your favorite coasters gets sabotaged.

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rollergator

Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:28 PM
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Richard Barth....wow, what a coinky-dink....one of my computer users has that name....I don't think it's him, though....;)
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Coaster Sam

Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:29 PM
What about magnetism. Charge about 25 huge electro magnets and bring the car back on the track and then regain the speed lost with lims.

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JoNoJ27

Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:30 PM
Lord: You would still notice the track above you, so you wouldn't necessarily get the feeling of falling off the track...
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rollergator

Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:34 PM
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what's ironic is how we have coasters already that "corral" the train similarly to the "watercoasters" and flume rides.....all suspendeds swing freely until the reach the station brakes.....what we're looking for is an easy way to "corral" a coaster train so the wheels will be gradually fed back into the normal track.....certainly possible, but it won't be cheap....
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Lankster

Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:37 PM
If they ever do do that invisible paint thing, I'd suggest when you ride look around at every other rider of the train. Cause if the Coyote is on, that invisible paint will turn into an actual hole.
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Lord Gonchar

Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:42 PM
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Good point, rollergator. Again I'll refer to Iron Dragon as it's the only Suspended I've had the chance to experience.

At the end of ID you're still swinging pretty far due to the pretzel finale - there is a "V" shaped piece at the bottom that catches the wheel at the bottom of each car and threads it into the station stopping the swing motion. As the train approaches the station, the wider end of the"V" corrals the wheel and it tapers stopping the swinging and threading the train without side to side motion into the station.

Perhaps something similar could be used to "jump" track?

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CedarPointNut

Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:57 PM
cool, but i like my idea better

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SFGAMDie HARD

Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:52 PM
I have thought of the floorless to invert idea before as well Lord Gonchar, and while I'm sure it could work, it would be anything but a jump. I would think it would be pretty cool though to have a track below you that ends and suddenly you're inverted and it happens faster than you can predict.

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Lord Gonchar

Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:06 PM
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SFGAMDie Hard,

I'm kind of bounceing between two ideas in those two posts. The first post (along with your same idea) would be a transion from track below to track above. The "corral" idea would be more of a "jump", but still a real jump has way too many safety issues to impliment. The first idea, however, seems entirely achieveable.

CedarPointNut,

You're idea makes sense too although I don't know why (or how) you'd need retractable upstops. When you explain how to make an upstop that is retractable and knows when to retract and come back out - I'll buy into it more. Still that's be an actual "jump" - which I think we can all safely assume will never happen.

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maticus

Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:11 PM
Yes there is a coaster in Japan that goes down a short piece of track and is attached to bungee cord. I have met one of the desingers and seen a video of this in coaster in action. I will try to get a copy of the tape and somehow get it posted on the web.
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CornballFreak

Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:42 PM
I bet you could have rolling stock on top of as floorless train and have inverted track with rails tapered at the end so the wheels could gain tread on the track (like what Buzzsaw Falls does). That would be like a jump, there would be no track underneath.

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the guy

Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:12 PM
there is a book about a coaster that does that, it is called, "Jumper"...u should read it...
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Wolf

Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:13 PM
Yes, a gapped coaster has been tried. While it did test, it was discovered to be unpredictable as to where it landed, and how it landed, and was thus scrapped as a concept. It was opened, however, with a design mod, and it`s notable for largely stopping the 1907 Steeplechase Fire with its sheet steel siding.

The inverted to sitdown idea is patented, actually. I don't know if a prototype has been built, but I remember at least one webpage showing it as a product.

Moosh, there is a second side-friction in England, that apparently jumps track even more than Leap-the-Dips.

The Flying Turns and Bonsled style cars occasionally jump in their tubes, but its debatable if these count as 'track'.

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Mamoosh

Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:19 PM
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Thanks, Wolf...I was merely going by my personal experience but I figured other side-fric fig-8's did the same.

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CornballFreak

Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:49 PM
So do happen to have the author of this "jumper" book by any chance?

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