Newer B&M's-Dull or Intense?

When B&M entered the coaster industry, I thought it was cool with Kumba.   I rode Kumba for the first time in 1999, and it was a bit bumpy.  Yet it was one of the most intense rides I've ever been on.  Newer B&M's, such as Hulk and Montu, are too smooth and doesn't offer the grat ride B&M used to deliver.  Am I the only one who thinks this?
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Its just a matter of taste.  Personally, i think that I have ridden 3 B&M's which just aren't that great.  Those being:

1.  Chang

2.  Hulk

3.  B:KF

Those all don't really fit into one year, or time frame, so I really don't see a pattern.  (although i have ridden 2 floorless coasters and have not been impressed by either.  From what i hear i should probably think similiarly about the rest.)

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Out of the ones I rode the most boring would have to be Talon. That rides a load of crap. I like B&M's intense rides like BTR,Raptor and all the other older ones.

I think it's just how you feel about the ride. I'll admit, first time I rode Medusa West, I thought it wasn't that intense, but it was a fun ride and same went for Riddler's Revenge. But I went on Batman: The Ride and I found that to be intense whereas my friend found it to be the opposite.

So as ravenguy said, it's a matter of taste.

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Newer B&Ms may not be intense, but that doesn't make them any less fun for me. Out of the 15 B&Ms I have been on, there was only one I disliked. That was Vortex at PGA, which I still regret not riding more than once. I would most definately give it another chance but the headbanging was really bad.

-L(keep em coming b&m)
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i agree with ravenguy and decoy..it really is a matter of taste.  personally, i LOVE most B&Ms.  the only one ive ridden that slightly dissapointed me was Great Bear...but it was still a great ride :)
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For me it depends, I feel that some B&M coasters out of the 7 i rode i feel that the difer from the persons perspective.I thought talon was a good ride but it wasent as intense as Raptor yet Greatbear was fun but in between The likes of Raptor and Talon.I also rode Nitro and i thought it was a great ride yet i dont like it as much as the rest of there coasters becuase it is too smooth and not so intense as there other coaster i rode.So i feel that i like there coaster more when they deliver a more rougher and intense ride vs smooth and perfect becuase it just dosent feel like a  athentic coaster ride.So it all just depends on the person and what they look for in a coaster.

I think that most B&Ms are lacking in intensity, but I love their designs and smoothness.  A front seat on any B&M is a magic ride...:)  The only B&M that smokes me every time is Batman TR.  It just never lets up.  Too short, but oh, so sweet!
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I think Montu is intense. I guess Goose passed out during the Batwing and could not remember the high G-forces!Also all the B&M's I have been on were all intense!

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Montu is smooth as glass.Ninja at SFOG is as smooth as sandpaper.

I think that the newer beemers are not too intense (i guess it depends on which element your talking about though) however i think a ride doesn't always have to be intense to be fun.  For example, medusa at sfgadv i found to be a tremendously fun ride however it wasn't the most intense one i've ever been on.  I guess it's a matter of opinion and what your taste in coasters is.
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Look at Fire Dragon at Islands of Adventure. Its a fairly new ride and I would say its pretty intense.

I said Montu was not too intense, but still a good ride.  FireDragon was a rare exception, it was intense, but was too short.  It was good while it lasted.  I would prefer Batman: TR and Rptor over Montu and Ice Dragon any day.  Intense, to me, is Titan, Texas Giant, Power Tower, and Poltergeist.  I would prefer many B&M's to have more of a compact layout and more twists and turns instead of loops.  Raptor was long, but very compact through its layout, same with Batman, so you don't know what's coming next.

The most intense B&M that I have ridden has to be Iron Wolf. I love it. I think the second half of the ride is just so awesome. People say that it's rough on their heads, but not for me. It flys through the second half of the course, and it has awesome banked turns. One of the best B&M's I think. But people allways complain and say it's too rough. Ehh, to bad for them...

I agree with Medusafanatic about Talon. I just wasn't impressed. It had good pacing and layout, but it just wasn't intense enough. Its a good ride don't get me wrong but I enjoy some other older B&M's much more. I think B&M are just starting to make them so smooth that it makes the ride much less intense. There need to be a middle ground between the 2.

I have to disagree with Coastergoose about his opinions on Batman Knight Flight and Hulk. Both I think have very intense layouts, especially Hulk with the launch,  zero-G roll and cobra roll. I cannot think of a more intense beginning for any looping coaster. Knight Flight is pretty intense with the low flying curves and helix.
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Personally, Kumba was the only B&M I've ridden that I wasn't too motivated to ride again. It was still a good ride, though. 
Anyone who doesn't think today's B&Ms, or any ride of that size aren't good enough, should learn to relax a little and enjoy the ride instead of contantly seeking intensity. I'm sure B&M makes their rides as smooth as the parks want them. The gp are probably the influence behind this. Conumer sovereignty(sp?).

As for The Hulk, if a ride that produces enough electricity to power a whole town isn't intense enough for you, what will be?
A hundred years ago, people never would have thought we'd come up with rides as big as they are now. It's sad how some people take what we have for granted.

*** This post was edited by scanz on 11/26/2001. ***

sethman, I never went on BKF.  Look at the second post by Ravenguy98.  Plus, Hulk's launch is really an unbelievable experience.  The problem is after that, the restis nothing to write home about!
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I'm sure that if a park asked B&M for an intense ride, they would build it.
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coastergoose said:
When B&M entered the coaster industry, I thought it was cool with Kumba.   I rode Kumba for the first time in 1999, and it was a bit bumpy.  Yet it was one of the most intense rides I've ever been on.  Newer B&M's, such as Hulk and Montu, are too smooth and doesn't offer the grat ride B&M used to deliver.  Am I the only one who thinks this?

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Kumba used to be just as smooth as Montu and Hulk.  Give those rides about another 4-5 years and they'll be as rough as your Kumba ride in 1999.

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The B&M's I have been on, I must say, are just "too smooth" for my taste. Sure they have sweet elements, and they are great rides, but sometimes I just wanna take a nap! A little too smooth in my opinion.