IOA, a waste of money?

Koaster King, why are your criticizing Cedar Point, the roller coaster capital of the world! I would rather go to CP any day over IOA! Unless IOA builds a GIGA I don't think it will ever be better than CP! I do think IOA is a great park, but in an amusement industry where you can go to the coaster capital, with 14 coasters, for 38$ and IOA, 3 coasters, Spiderman, & JP, for 50+$, it is unjust!!! Where else can you go on a 310ft coaster overlooking one of the great lakes!!!!

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Steel- 1.Millennuim Force
Wood- 1.The Beast
Waste of Money? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

I paid over $3000 New Zealand dollars for my IOA ticket ...
OK so it including 16+ hours of Air travel, 2 weeks in Orlando and a 14-day 5-park Orlando flexticket ($375 New Zealand).

Best 3 Grand Ive ever spent!

Dare anyone to top THAT!


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If Lifes a Rollercoaster, I want a Flawless
Wow, talk about being a tight wad. What do you expect to pay when you're riding multi-million dollar rides in a park that cost hundreds of millions to build? $2.00 a ride? Geez! That'd really prompt them to expand.
XL-FORCE, it's all a matter of opinion(and if you want to go further:food, atmosphere, cleanliness, theming, quality, capacity, appearance, shows, facilities, hotels,...). I'm not saying your wrong for thinking the prices are high. But I will say that your wrong in thinking the prices are unfair, because they're clearly not. Especially for a theme park(which is different than CP-an amusement park).

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PKI-Wooden and Kiddie Coaster Capital of the World!
The First and Only Gigabuzzer bigger than Millie, rising Faster than Maggie, and pulls more BS than MS ever will!!!
You are the Weakest Link! Goodbye!!!
Want to talk high priced, how about those sky coaster rides? You pay almost 40 bucks to ride these things and only once. At least parks like IOA give you more bang for the buck. You can get as many rides as you want in a visit and a decent variety to boot. And let's face it all theme parks a a little pricey Disney, Busch , Universal, Six Flags etc.. In a perfect world everything would be cheaper but since this isn't a perfect world we just have to deal with it. Besides annual passes are offered at these parks and they help ease the financial pinch. Let's not forget these parks put in a lot to give the guests the greatest experience possible for their money.
Let's see

Spiderman alone costs more than all of CP's coasters put together (200 million). That kind of theming is very expensive. The park total to build was around 1.2 BILLION dollars.

Also, they are in a market that is the theme park capital of the world. Once you get to college, which it seems some of you have not as of yet, you will learn that in business you price your product according to the market and what it will hold. Also how you stack up in that market and what you have to offer.

The Orlando area is in a league of it's own and is priced accordingly. When you have kids Disney does not seem overpriced or a waste of money as some of you may think now. Orlando is the #1 tourist destination in the world, OFFICIALLY!
It's not because of Junglelend zoo, buddy.

Why would IOA set amusement park like prices when they are not an amusement park. CP is 1300 miles away. Do you think they care what CP is charging?

Not everyone is a coaster fanatic. IOA tries to please everyone. Not everyone is a teenager either,although a lot of teenagers fail to see anything beyond their immediate world.

IOA is a bargain. As you age, your tastes will broaden. Get some experience under your belt and you will find that this is true.
I completely agree the thrill. Very well said.

BUT, the teenager comment was very rude as I know that teenagers can be very intelligent and know what they're talking about(somethings more than adults). Even making the comment was completely pointless as I personally will take the charm and atmosphere of IOA, WDW, BGT, BGW, and other parks like that over roller coasters and thrill rides galore as I know the experience is much better and more memorable. IMO, although Dr.Doom is smaller, it is by far more thrilling to ride than Power Tower, because you're not on just any space shot and Cat in the Hat isn't just any dark ride. Same is to be said about all of their other rides. Thanks for listening, but no thanks for the comment.
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PKI-Wooden and Kiddie Coaster Capital of the World!
The First and Only Gigabuzzer bigger than Millie, rising Faster than Maggie, and pulls more BS than MS ever will!!!
You are the Weakest Link! Goodbye!!! *** This post was edited by Koaster King on 4/17/2001. ***

the thrill said:
"...Not everyone is a teenager either,although a lot of teenagers fail to see anything beyond their immediate world.

... As you age, your tastes will broaden. Get some experience under your belt and you will find that this is true."



I'm offended by this, and the fact is, by teenagers being offended by this, adults just use that against us by saying it's proof for what you've just said. Well, it's not. But... you are right, IOA isn't a coaster finatic's park. If you want that, and your in Florida, I think BGT would be the best.

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V2, Deja Vu... how can it be better? Add Viper! Oh, wait. It's already there!
Thank you, The Thrill. You spelled it out quite nicely.

IOA wowed me more than any park has since I first visited BGW. It sure is a good example of quality over quantity. (Which I think some parks haven't figured out yet. No, I'm not talking about CP.)

As some have mentioned, I think that one could argue that IOA has quantity. Geez, the park is ony 2 years old and think of how many "E-Ticket" attractions they have. Probably just as many as the original theme park, Disneyland does 45+ years after it's opening.

Thr Thrill, as for the teenage comment (which I'm sure you'll get many responses to), I would have posted my disagrement right away if I was still 16, because I knew everything back then. Years later, I agree with what you say. It's amazing what a few years can do to a person!

-Peabody

*** This post was edited by Peabody on 4/16/2001. ***
Thrill summed it up nice ...

CP doesnt have a WDW, BGT, USF, SWF, Wet and Wild, Old Town and countless other places to battle with. Although it will have it hands full this year with SFWoA onslaught. Coaster Capital or not.

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If Lifes a Rollercoaster, I want a Flawless
In looking at the cost, don't forget that if you're travelling from out of town there are other costs that are much higher than the admission price. Consider travel costs (airline or driving expenses), lodging costs, meals away from home, and so on. Because each day costs a lot even before paying the admission price, you want to carefully consider where you want to spend these valuable days once you get there.
When I visited IOA I at first thought the $50 price tag was a bit steep. But then I started putting it in to prospective.

We were there for 9 hours. That equals $5.55 per hour.

I had 9 rides combined on Hulk, DD, and Spiderman. That is rides on their three big draws. That is $5.55 per ride. (Hersheypark charges $4.80 when they have pay per ride days for Great Bear... Old Town charges $4 for their little Windstorm).

That day I had a total of 14 different rides. That is $3.57 per ride.

Another way to look at it: The price of a NHL hockey ticket averages $40. The price of a show on Broadway is around $65. In both of those cases you are merely a spectator for something that lasts around 2 hours (for the performance) or 3 hours (for the hockey game).

Places like CP and even Hersheypark (my home park) charge lower prices for a few reasons. They are older parks and have been built up over time, not a HUGE outlay of money in 2 years. They are not in a market that is a hotbed for tourists, IOA is. And, mainly, IOA charges $50 becuase they can charge $50 and people will still come there.

"Just down the block" Sea World charges $50. A coaster person may not think this is "just" either, but, they are not simply a thrill park. Again, they charge $50 because of the market. (on the other hand, even a coaster person may think $50 is worth it too. Using my above logic, I did 6 rides on Kraken and 4 on Atlantis... that is $5.00 per ride just basing it on those... worth it I think.)



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"Twenty three stories tall, painted grey, and the old people said termites was eatin' it up..."
- From Bill Cosby's "Rolland and the Rollercoaster"
A park's greatness is not based wholly on the number of coasters. Sure, it has two (you could even argue that it has three) B&M coasters that are both absolutely fabulous.

The coasters are just the beginning of the story though. Look at the three great water rides: Jurassic Park, Popeye, and Ripsaw Falls. Each one is totally different and extremely thrilling.

Then let's jump to the other rides in Marvel SuperHero Island. Dr. Doom is quite possibly my favorite free-fall ride even though it's the shortest one I've ever been on. You get a huge pop of air at the top because it shoots you up, and then down, a rather rare feature of today's S&S towers. Finally there's Spiderman, the most incredibly realistic and immersive simulator in the world. Need I say more?

Then add in the food, the themes, and Seuss Landing. I spent ten hours in the park and wasn't even close to getting my fill. That's the mark of a great theme park.

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E.J.
Webmaster: Theme Park New England
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We can do without negative teen comments, thanks. I coach ten intelligent, beautiful and wonderful 16-year olds. All three of the CoasterBuzz affiliate sites (including the new SFDL site coming soon) were built by teens, and they're some of the best on the Net.

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Jeff
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As long as I don't have to pay, I dont care.

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Okay, folks. . .let's not blow things out of proportion here :-)

IOA cost ~1.2 Billion to build. That's ride systems, architecture, and infrastructure. Wouldn't it strike you as being a bit odd that they would invest nearly half of that in a single attraction? It should.

The Amazing Adventures of Spiderman cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 million (Wired, May '99). . . I'm sure it was a bit more, though. . . . but, it does not represent even as much as a 20% investment into the entire assets of the park.

And, yes, IOA is worth the money. It's a beautiful park designed by a time with a unique philosophy. It's an enjoyable place to visit, and it's an excellent study in design, if you're into that sort of thing. . . it's great fun seeing what they did wrong and what they did right.

~ Michael ~

but disney cost $50! and no wood or B&M
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HurricaneGeauga- Just in case
Anyone who says $45 for IOA is too much, needs to remember that there are always discounts at different places for tickets. Also, XL-Force 2000 in the first few posts said that IOA needs more coasters with airtime and such.... IOA is not an amusement park.... they are a theme park. You are just spoiled then XL-Force2000 if you want so many more great coasters out of a theme park. Maybe you should have a word with Disney because they don't have many coasters and are also a theme park in the area. IOA spends time and money creating scenery and a beautiful park. IOA does not care about creating more average or poor rides because IOA is all about quality. IOA already has two world class coasters and they are just getting started. This is only their 2nd or 3rd years in operation. Give them time to later expand and maybe add a hyper or woodie or something amazing later to their amazing ride collection. The lack of coasters is made up for with Dr. Doom's Freefall, Seuss Landing's scenery and decorations, Jurassic Park ride, Dudley Do-Right Falls etc. IOA is just getting started and is already amazing.

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Dave
All parks in Orlando and Florida are about $50.00.It is all about competing and getting money.I guess you say Disney and Seaworld are a waste of money too because they have even less coasters then IOA and tickets are the same amount.
IOA has so much more to offer than a few coasters...sure they are a perk...but the park is absolutely mind-blowing! Ohh have u forgotten Spiderman...Dudley Do-rights Ripsaw Falls....Jurrassic Park River Adventure...Posiedens Fury....Popeye and Bluto's Bilge Rat Barges Dr.Dooms Fear Fall and the ever-so-enjoyable Cat in the Hat! I'm sure everyone whos been there will agree these are great rides! Add in the INCREDIBLE AND UNBELEIVABLE themeing and the coasters and this park is by far worth 45 dollars! Ohh....it also has the very entertaining City-Walk right outside the entrance at no extra charge...how nice!!!

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