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Jeff I’m glad the EV works for you, but it won’t for me. I drive back and forth to Gatlinburg twice a year, to Sandusky and Mason once a year, Branson once a year, and do at least one long haul road trip for 2-3 weeks. I recognize I am not normal, but I am the exception. 30 min stops every 200 miles is not acceptable to me.

It's not 30... nevermind.

Vater:

Is it because combustion vehicles are going to make the Earth uninhabitable any minute now like we've been hearing for 50+ years from the alarmists?

I'm not sure who the alarmists are that you speak of. But is there urgency? Considering how slow we've been to do anything at all, it's not like we can flip a switch tomorrow and say, "That's far enough."

• Warming since the 80's has been at 3x the rate of what it was in the hundred years before that.
• Sea level rise has followed a similar curve.
• NASA says CO2, the primary greenhouse gas, is 50% higher than at any time before the industrial revolution, going back a million years.
• NASA also says the area of inhabitable earth affected by severe weather is on a sharp rise, and drought and flood areas have tripled in the last seven years, suggesting we may have hit a tipping point.
• The US military has repeatedly raised the concern about not just the effect on their assets around the world, but the impact caused by climate-induced migration. When people can't grow food, they move, destabilizing geopolitical policy, immigration and food supplies.

Sure, I'll be dead before it gets really bad, but it seems like kind of a dick move to kick the can down the road. You can't rapidly fix it. It's like investing, if you don't start early, you may never catch up.

Does anyone really think that thousands of academic researchers have conspired to make stuff up? I know it's fashionable to be skeptical of our institutions, but this is pretty settled science.

The charging might take 20 min, but the exiting, driving to the charger, plugging in the charger, and then doing the reverse take time too. When I say a gas stop takes 10-15 min that’s the time from entering the exit ramp, to exiting the on ramp.

I get it, you're an outlier, this won't work for you.

But still... if we're using the i4 as an example, it will give you about 250 miles range on 1/2 hour charge. So on a 1,000 mile trip, you'll need to stop a total of 3 times, adding 90 minutes on to your trip. You said above that 10 hours of driving takes you 12-13 with stops. This is no different.

At the end of the day, I truly do not care. I just like math or something.

Not every stop is for gas, those stops still happen. Thats why the math doesn’t math.

There's also a simplicity and convenience factor. I take a decent amount of trips and I don't want to have to use an app to figure out where the chargers are. I know gas stations have gas and they have big signs and are easy to spot. I don't know who has chargers.

I figure in a few more years the chargers should be pretty ubiquitous but for now I'll stick to ICE. Need gas? Pull off, get gas, pee, move on.