Zonga's restraints

Thursday, March 6, 2003 11:25 AM
Pix were just posted on Zonga's progress, and they showed the new harnesses:

http://www.norcalcoasters.com/updates/030603/IMG_5053.jpg

Do these or do they not look exactly like those on SFMM's Revolution? Can anyone confirm for me how smooth was Thriller/TTT? With these bulky restrictive harnesses, will us SFMW fans have another head bashing Revolution, or can I keep my Tylenol at home?

This plus the modification rumors of the drop being shortened and the first two loops being raised to reduce g's has me less than enthused about a once awesome coaster I had always wanted to ride. The Swartzkopf fan in me actually wishes it had stayed in Europe, in it's original form, the way Anton wanted it to be experienced.
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Thursday, March 6, 2003 11:30 AM
I don't remember exactly but those OTSR kinda look like the old ones they had on it that only lasted only part of opening day at SFAW.

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 11:33 AM
It's a Schwarzkopf, that coaster is as smooth as they get! Well, it used to be.

Don't recognize the restraints though. Just be glad they're not the same as on Olympia Looping, the roller coaster that makes you an inch smaller everytime you ride it..

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*** This post was edited by DRNK 3/6/2003 4:37:19 PM ***

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 11:48 AM
Those are the new restraints, which were developed by Anton's son Wieland Schwarzkopf. They are also used on some flatrides (i.e. the Absoluter). That are the restraints which were used on the one day Texas Tornado was open in 2001. I think that they only added more padding, but left the restraint as it was.

If I remember correctly, Revolution uses completely different OSTR.

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 12:02 PM
Those OTSR's look like a cross between B&M stand up restraints & the painful premiere horsecollars,.can anyone say major pain?
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Thursday, March 6, 2003 12:18 PM
From what I know those are NOT the new restraints. Those look like the old one from SFAW. The new ones I saw were much skinnier and were black, not orange.

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 1:12 PM
Notice the first pic of trains are covered, and the train behind that isnt, kind of looks like theres a lap bar there, and no horse collar. The second pic of the trains, are the restraints that they used on Texas Tornado for only one day. All the other times on Texas Tornado was a lap bar, and the pull down to your shoulder (like Manhatten Express, or Viper at SFGADV) Those are NOT like Revolutions at SFMM, Revolutions are freakin thin, and are like concrete (same type as Flashback too)
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Thursday, March 6, 2003 1:13 PM
Acutally to see the pic I am talking about just go to http://www.norcalcoasters.com/updates/030603/IMG_5052.jpg, I am serious that looks like a lap bar on the train behind the covered one
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Thursday, March 6, 2003 1:31 PM
It looks like black OTSRs...kinda hard to tell.....

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 1:34 PM
As far as I can tell sfmmrider is correct...the red uncovered train in the rear has lap bars only. Still, that's not any indication of what types of restraints Zonga will run with.

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 1:41 PM
Alright, so as the unofficial representative for the *glass-as-half-full* crowd, it is my sworn duty to prove the positive of positive thought IS a driving force in the universe, I will begin the chant (if you make it loud enough, they will HAVE to listen): Lapbars, lApbars, laPbars, lapBars, lapbArs, lapbaRs, lapbarS, LAPBARS...
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Thursday, March 6, 2003 1:50 PM
Look at the back of the train of that uncovered one, there is NO OTSR, but just a lap bar! O GOD! What if they get the restraints like Perilous Plunge (There is a Swartzkopf coaster out there like it) it's called Magnum Force. http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery825.htm?Picture=14
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Thursday, March 6, 2003 1:54 PM
Also notice the pic with the OTSR's has a silver color (metal it seems) on the top of each side, while the pic I posted is padded with a black color. Also the pic first posted you could clearly see the orange OTSR over those things, but the pic I did you can't!
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Thursday, March 6, 2003 1:56 PM
Bassistist! Bassistist! Bassistist! Opps, I mean Lapbars! Lapbars! Lapbars!

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 2:18 PM
You called? ;)

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 3:23 PM
Funny how things get around. I was told months ago that Zonga would feature the infamous 'shoulder clip' restraints similar to the ones found on Manhattan Express, along with a lap bar. Perhaps the person who was allowed to snap the pictures can shed some light?

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 3:42 PM
Alright, here is what I know.. I didn't snap the photos, but a good friend did. Anyways, right now they did not change the supports at SFAW for obvious reasons. The cars will receive new the OTSR's sometime very soon. I have also heard the rumor of the Lap Bar along with the OTSR. I will try to find out a little more, but the new restraints should be put in place soon.

As for the Track, it has gone vertical today as far as I know. I will try to keep you guys updated with what I find out about the restraints.
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Thursday, March 6, 2003 3:46 PM
This is not saying ANYONE is wrong, but why would they want to get the "shoulder clip" restraint, when they had those originally on Texas Tornado, and they changed the restraints because it was to rough. They also only ran it one day with the restraints those seen on the first picture. I seriously think it'll be a lap bar with MAYBE those 4 point harnesses like on Magnum Force.
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Thursday, March 6, 2003 3:56 PM
Beacuse they've been modified to be more comfortable(if that's possible). In any event, I didn't say it was true, only what I heard someone mention.

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 4:45 PM
I hate to say this but, I belive the train in the back is has the OTSR and Lap Bar restrints. I belive this because they had only 2 or 3 trains with the new OTSR while leaving the other ones with the older OTSR and Lap bars. I never rode the Texas Tornado at AW (becasue they never reopened the ride), but when I was at AW they had the trains on the track 2 of them with the new OTSR and one of them with the Lap Bar and OTSR.

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Chris Knight
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