Thursday, February 8, 2001 2:58 PM
Theres a good chance that the first inversion in the track is mighty tall, but have you every stopped and thought about the flip at the top of the drop? Thats over 200 feet right there, and in my definition, very much indeed upside down. Whether or not you can consider it an inversion, its still going upside down over 200 feet in the air.
Can this be considered to break Volcanos/S:KC's record? (please dont debate that Claude Mabillard was kidding when he said 160 ft loop, its irrelevant)
Friday, February 9, 2001 11:51 AM
I've always been under the impression that an inversion was ANY maneuver that COMPLETELY turns the body heads down, perpendicular to the plane of the ground. Such as the top of a vertical loop, the midpoint of a corkscrew, or the highest point of an immelman. So I would think that these "spins" on X would have to be inversions.
HOWEVER... I think we all know that they are two completely different things, and that there should be two different names for them. Maybe a "Train Based Rotation" or "Spin" rather than inversion. I don't know. Just my take on it.
Friday, February 9, 2001 12:45 PM
The worlds tallest inversion is from the train flipping FULLY upside down. Tre track doesnt turn upside down at the top of the lift.
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Friday, February 9, 2001 12:53 PM
Hmmm... I hope this does not turn into another "is S:TE a coaster" kind of deal. From the looks of the video, I would sat that it qualifies as the world's tallest inversion, once it gets built.
As long as the rider makes a full 360 degree movement, with any part of that 360 degree movement placing the rider in a completely inverted position, I don't see any room for argument.
"X" marks the spot in 2001!
Friday, February 9, 2001 12:57 PM
This is an intresting debate actually.
I think it should have a seprate name as said.
But even if they do call it and inversion X's track dips right before the drop right?
the inversion will take place Just below 200ft.
(If X is 200ft.)
Im not sure so correct me if im wrong and it is taller than 200ft.
But if so Oddessy will break that record in 2002 anyway as the stats for the loop are 200ft arnt they? That would mean the train would be prehaps a ft higher than X at the completely upsidedown point?
or am i getting all confused here? If so disregard this post.
Friday, February 9, 2001 1:19 PM
What is Oddessy?
Friday, February 9, 2001 6:00 PM
Well X is actually 220 feet, but the drop is 200 feet, so I'm guessing the flip at the top will be at about 210 feet. The dip at the top of the lift is so the riders will have some speed going upside down over the bump, thus pushing them a tiny bit into the seat before dropping.
I think now that this should count as an inversion, as the ride is below the tracks at other times in the ride where the riders are still right side up. Inversions really depend on the rider, not the trains in my opinion. If a 4D did a flip but the riders spun so that they were right-side up the whole time, would you consider that to be an inversion? Didn't think so.
Oddessy, thats the hyper custom SLC design in Europe, correct? I wasn't aware the loop was 200 feet, I thought that was the height or drop.. Correct me if I'm wrong with a link or something.
Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:31 AM
Personaly I'd say as long as the person flips or the designers call it an inversion (B&M incline loop), then it is an inversion.