It's incredibly disappointing that X isn't operating the way it ideally should, but perhaps it will be the stepping stone to a better design sometime in the future.
Coaster Bob said:
I have a feeling a park already has.................
Care to elaborate??? Also, how about Intamin trying a 4-D? With their square track pieces it would only need slight modification to allow 2 sets of running rails, i.e. widening the bottom set of corners a little... Oh, the possibilities. And as for someone saying that th weight of the trains lies in strengthening them to hold wings of 4 across, why not try it with 1 rider on either side? Maybe a longer train or more trains to increase capacity? Or maybe a racing/dueling 4-D with 2 across trains? Bottom line is this... The IDEA of a 4-D works and works well. It just needs to be tweaked a little bit to work flawlessly.
GoliathKills said:
X's problem is with the track (inner rails to be exact.) Design flaws cause the track to have trouble in heat. Also a lot of little (a couple big too) problems with the trains. If the track didn't have the problems it does because of heat, then X would operate a lot more.------------------
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*** This post was edited by GoliathKills 6/19/2003 12:26:02 PM ***
That's kind of an outlandish comment GoliathKills. If this were really the case a lot more people would be talking about the rails.Who would tell you such stuff? ;)
There is so much wrong with that statement that I don't know where to begin, so I'll just laugh:
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Simply have rails on the OUTSIDE of the far seats....it would make the ride tremendously costly to build/repair, but if those rails were able to shift SOME of the stresses FROM outside of the center rails back towards the center of mass (i.e., into the *spine* of the track), then there would be a lot less trouble with stresses from the seats hanging so FAR outside the *CoG*....;)
I'll even make a prediction, since I love looking foolish in hindsight: The next 4-D, to be built in '05, will be between 120-140' in height (not coincidentally, more in line with Schilke's initial recommendation)....;)
edits: I am fully aware that *simply* putting extra rails is NOT that simple...I am also aware that the significant problems with X have NOT been fully resolved....
Anyone doubting the unbelievable LEAP of faith taken in building the 4-D really are missing the boat: Schilke is an *evil genius* of epic proportions - his picture even hangs in the CPG executive washroom...
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*** This post was edited by rollergator 6/28/2003 12:58:49 PM ***
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*** This post was edited by CoasterKrazy 6/28/2003 1:13:28 PM ***
coasterdude318 said:
This is well beyond any of the problems TTD, Hypersonic, MF, Goliath, etc ever had. A ride that is designed properly works, from the beginning, with minor issues. X clearly does not fit that profile.
TTD and Hypersonic are not prototypes. TTD being shutdown almost everyday these last couple of weeks is a lot worse than X's downtime because TTD is not a prototype. Intamin has built 3 rocket coasters so far: a prototype launch in the plant, Xcelerator, and now TTD. Arrow only designed and built a 20 foot 4D to see if the seats would spin right. There is NO way they could tell if the ride would have major stress fractures from a miniscule 20 foot ride. Like others have said, it's not a complete failure until SF decides to take the ride down.
It's the same with Hypersonic. S&S built a prototype in their backyard. They got everything working correctly there, but what happened with Hypersonic?
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b) Anybody could do it, but they're the only ones rumored to be working on a 4D design. ;)
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Also remember that the (don't really know the technical name) plate with teeth on it that moves up and down with the X wheel bogeys sticks out of the (current) top side of the train, and you probably don't want people near that in the station.
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It's time to say goodbye to know-it-all enthusiasts who don't know a thing about maintaining a complicated piece of rollercoaster equipment, yet act like they can sum X up in one or two paragraphs. (lol)
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