X is Rated #1 World Wide by C. Enthusiasts

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:41 AM

Here's the link:


Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:04 AM

I can't be the only one that thinks it is funny that Six Flags wrote up a press release just to say this. Sure, X is an awesome ride, and it is in fact my #1 steel coaster, but it just seems like an unusual thing to make a big deal about.

Besides, it is hardly unanimous. The Internet Steel Coaster Poll, IMO one of the most accurate, didn't have X as #1. Nor did Amusement Buisness.

It guess its just buisness, and SF wanting to hype up X once again, particularly now that it is more reliable.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:15 AM

I think someone's a little jealous of all the attention an unfinished coaster is currently getting. Can you blame them?

But it is funny that they say it's rated number 1 by enthusiasts. They got that from a site I've never heard of! The Golden Ticket Arawds and the Steel COaster poll sure say otherwise.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:31 AM

I don't put much faith in their scores...they don't have either the Legend or the Raven in their top 10 wood coasters, heck they have Cornball Express at #1 and American Eagle at SFGAm at #10?

Then in the steel coaster category, they have SFGAm's Deja Vu at #4 and Millennium Force at #6...

Somebody's been smoking something at that site...

--George H
---Superman the ride...coming to a SF park near you soon...

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:35 AM

This is no different than the press release proclaiming S:TE the world's tallest coaster after MF was announced. Of course, this only told a careful reader that the still-secret Goliath was gonna come up short.

Personally, I think these press releases are a bad idea. It presents the appearance of running scared.


The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:39 AM

Hey, Arrow has the Coasters' Choice Coaster of The Year award listing up at their IAAPA booth. Wasn't expecting to see that. After its first year, will it get the overall Best Coaster award? I'm betting no, personally. I think a lot of enthusiasts have a bad taste in their mouth regarding the reliability of the thing.

But as usual, polls are polls, and shouldn't be considered anything more than entertainment.

Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:44 AM

But it is funny that they say it's rated number 1 by enthusiasts. They got that from a site I've never heard of!

Themeparkcritic.com is a great idea gone wrong. I love the idea of everybody rating rides - enthusiasts, GP, the mildly interested - everyone's invited. Looks great on paper. However as someone who jumped on the bandwagon very early - I quickly found the flaws. Basically it's more a popularity contest than honest ratings/reviews. I'd get totally flamed for giving a coaster I liked an 8 out of 10. Many people don't understand the concept of "shades of grey" and most ratings are either a "10" or "0" with 8's and 9's tossed in for good measure. People create multiple accounts and give rides they like several 10's and rides they hate 0's. It's chaotic and unstable at best (score-wise). Reviews range from well written to one word with a couple gazillion exclamation points and are a better way of evaluating the opinions on the site.

I really wanted to like the site - it's a great idea and I don't mean to bash Mark and his work. But the way it got dragged down totally turned me off. Perhaps it's changed since then, it's been a while since I've visited the site.


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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:50 AM

Certainly haven't ridden them all....but from my too-limited *Xperience*, that there piece of steel at "The Mountain" is even better than everybody says it is....

or, as I phrased it earlier today: S:RoS:Phoenix::X:Cornball

Obviously, I am also *crazy for Corny*....ratings are notoriously bogus, and I really don't base my judgements on what anyone else says...not even that sexy Paul Ruben...;)

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:56 AM
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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:40 AM
It's good to know some things never change though...

What article would be complete without a quote from Paul Ruben saying it's his "favorite rollercoaster" or that it's the "best rollercoaster in the world" ???

James Draeger
-Captain Sarcasm (aka Sour Boy)

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 12:49 PM

ThemeParkCritic.com is a good site, and Mark works very hard to weed out the bogus reviews and reviewers, but Lord Gonchar is right that peopel do not look at rides in the grey areas, and take into acount the good and the bad about the rides.

But, more onto the subject, I really think that this article is more of a Six Flags press release. Am I wrong in saying that it isn't even accurate in the fact that Cedar Point will also have 16 coasters at the begining of the season? It does nothing but praise SFMM, and does even go into the fact that X was SBNO for months on end.

"If you make it too smooth, it'll be like sitting in your living room."
-Bill Cobb - Designer, Texas Cyclone

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:02 PM
Can someone please translate 'Gator's post?

Sig under construction!

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:09 PM
....honestly, I looked at it and I don't see what needs translating....perhaps 'Moosh just hasn't been practicing his anal-ogies...stupid text wrap...;)
Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:27 PM
Whoops, wrong topic, I saw X and Rated and thought we were talking about M:TR again. ;)

Coming in 2003-The Spawn Of Magnum!

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:50 PM

I have to say that X was one of the biggest let-downs I have ever been on. I had more fun on Flashback. And the 3 hour wait didn't help any either. It's not the fact that I had to wait 3 hours for the ride. (I waited 3 hours for Millennium Force) It's the fact that there were maybe 1000 people in line, if that. MF had 3000 people in line. X has the worst capacity I've ever experienced.

Oh, BTW, where are Shivering Timbers or Raven on the Wooden coaster list? You mean to tell me that American Eagle at Six Flags Great America is a better wooden coaster? Give me a break.

And since when was Cedar Point's Mantis a "non roller-coaster?" Maybe that's why Magic Mountain thinks it has the most. And if Test Track at Epcot is the 11th best non coaster ride in the world, you obviously have a faulty poll.

Also, when 12 of the top 25 steel coasters belong to a Six Flag park, then this is obviously not based on how good the ride is, but by how many people ride the ride. I'm sure there are 30 million people who have ridden Batman: The Ride and consider it the best inverted coaster not because it is, but because they've never ridden anything else like Nemesis, Raptor, Alpengeist, Montu, etc. A hamburger always tastes excellent until you've tried a steak.

Sure, Six Flags should cling to the miniscule amount of awards it gets, but this one is ridiculous. Shame on them for milking such a small notice.


Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:59 PM

LOL Magnum Force

Ummmmmm what is so bad about SF inc/SFMM blowing their own horn, companies do it all the time. I also didn't hear any of these vicious and stupid comments when CP was blowing theres over MF. So what is so wrong with SFMM doing the same thing, I'm sick of this double standard that flows so rapid through the enthusiast community.Heck Cedar fair could build a 1 sec long coaster and they rock, SF inc. could build a one hour long coaster and they suck imo it just doesn't make any sense.

Anyways I know CP will blow their one horn over TTD so hard they might blow a lung, and you suck up will praise every word of it like the complete and utter idiots some of you are.

I love CP it is trully a great park, but I am really hoping that TTD gives them all the problems that Xcelerator has and then some, so you people will see CP IS NOT A GOD, and that CP is amusement park that can have problems, mistakes, and shady marketing/hyping just like any other business or amusement park.

Anyways get over it pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:25 PM

The thing is that CP uses industry respected publications like Amusement Today when they gloat. They don't use a fan site that obviously uses fuzzy math. Besides, I never said Cedar Point was a good park. I mentioned a few rides at Cedar Point, but I mentioned other rides at other parks as well.

If I say that Shivering Timbers is the greastes wooden coaster in the Universe, that's just as respectable as anything posted at themeparkcritic.com. You don't see Michigan's Adventure creating a press release quoting that do you? I'm not saying Cedar Point is godlike, but I am saying that Six Flags is using an unreliable source and shouldn't be putting out a press release for an accolade so small.

This has nothing to do with Cedar Point.

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Wednesday, January 22, 2003 5:56 AM


You hit the nail right on the head! That is so true. I haven't eXperienced that coaster yet, but I have a question. -And this is just my opinion.

From seeing X on TV, magazines, newspapers, amusement park publications, and evreything else.........

Why are they now building a floorless coaster? It seems to me that you get the same kind of effect riding X. There's no floor on X's trains. In addition to that, X has new and unique features to it compared to a floorless. Unless there was a high demand from the local residents of Valencia for a floorless coaster, the only reason why SFMM is building it is to retain their record of having the most roller coasters on earth.

Anyways, one of these days I do want to fly out to Cafironia and ride X for myself.

Keeping Youngstown Living Exciting

Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:08 AM

Why would it matter that neither coaster has a floor? That has no bearing on the experience of both coasters.

Thats like saying V2, Deja-Vu, Batman:TR , and S:UF at SFGAm are all the same experience because none of them have a floor.

From where I sit, the collection of coasters at SFMM is pretty impressive. That includes Scream.

""To be the man, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!, You got to beat the man""!!!

Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:15 AM

CoasterXfreak said:

I also didn't hear any of these vicious and stupid comments when CP was blowing theres over MF.

Ohhhhh yes there was! Somebody wasn't on URC back in its heyday, to say nothing of RRC... Frankly, even SF got in on the fun with a press release 'response' to CP's MF release. Then came the wave of bitter West Coasters who kept insisting that Goliath was bigger. After the smaller, shorter stats were released, it just got worse! As a matter of fact, it sounded a lot like this...

Anyways I know CP will blow their one horn over TTD so hard they might blow a lung, and you suck up will praise every word of it like the complete and utter idiots some of you are...but I am really hoping that TTD gives them all the problems that Xcelerator has and then some...

See what I mean? That doesn't even sound a little bit like hatin' on a champ. I would use a particular Freudian term but it's just all to easy.

And now for a moment of humorous irony. Enjoy!

Anyways get over it pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I'll say!


The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

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