WT will equal extreme line-ups

LTLWcbYbe, who said max capacity will happen?.........max is said to be 1300 pph according to Intamin. The figure we're talking about is 1000 pph, which even as described above should happen.

Let's take Raptor for example. There would be the same amount of crew for both rides fastening seatbelts and such. Each op will be checking about 10 seats, which technically is 2 more than when operating Raptor with only 4 operators. However, unlike Raptor, the ops won't have to actually step into the rows, but rather just walk down the side of the train. Should be comparable in time taken to fasten restraints. Believe me, walking in and out of the rows takes quite a bit of time. Raptor dispatches every 48 seconds or so to hit interval, which happens quite a lot. There's no way the WT is going to take twice as long to dispatch. I think a minute is very doable, and perhaps even less.

Raptor's max is 1800 an hour, which is impossible to reach for the same reasons stated above, people putting stuff to the side, slow guests, problems fastening a restraint. However, that ride is almost always between 1400-1600 an hour. Assuming that CP doesn't even implement an assigned seating pattern for single riders, I don't doubt that WT will be hitting close to 1000 every hour

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At first, it will be slow, because it is a new ride, and the first of its type at CP. However, by the end of the season they should be up to at least 900 pph, if not more.

You're not dispatching Raptor on a 0:48 interval no matter how good you are. You might be at 0:48 from floor-up to dispatch, but the ride is too long to have a 48-second interval...actual dispatch interval (from dispatch to next dispatch) is ideally about 64 seconds, is usually more like 70 seconds, and on the day I took the measurements listed earlier in this thread was 88 seconds. Note that the interval as I define it here includes a certain amount of time that the crew has no control over, notably the time required to move the trains through the station. For that reason, the park may use a different definition for 'dispatch interval' that is actually better described as "load/unload time".

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

The WT line is going to move slower than Blue Streaks line!

I've been to CP five times and never riden BS cause the line be movin' soooooo slow.

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coasterfreaky said:
The WT line is going to move slower than Blue Streaks line!

I've been to CP five times and never riden BS cause the line be movin' soooooo slow.

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What facts do you have to prove this? Until you show me facts that WT is going to be slower than Blue Streaks line, I could believe that WT is going to have a line twice as fast as MF!

If your so afriad to wait in line, pay 15 bucks and upgrade your pass, and only ride it during ERT in the morning

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My best advice as to hitting the target pph: have a long garden hose very close by so that when people barf all over the place you won't have to shut the ride down for 10 minutes or more just to have someone go and fetch the hose, hose it down, and all that stuff. Always be prepared. Have the hose ready my friends! :)

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Hey the cedar point rider capacity issue, is non sense, it has a good rph so just don't woory.

Joey, hopefully they will have a hose on the platform just like they do on the Raptor platform. We'd just unwind it, turn it on and spray away. Of course, we do put disenfectant on it and run the train empty (if it's on the seats) for a few cycles. Hopefully we won't have to run WT empty for more than one cycle. We'll find out soon enough. I'm just hoping we won't have too much barfing going on. But who doesnt?

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Also the fact that there is only one train contributes. Impulses are great, I don't know why people expect HUGE capacity. Think of the Boomerang coasters!

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I think the propensity of guests to mess with their shoes on the inverteds will also "tend" to hurt capacity....it does make the ride feel a *bit* more free, but what a Pain in the Arse...

Well they may just make people put all loose articles in a locker like they do on MF. That's the only thing that I can see them doing to make it run more smoothly. Other than that, people are just going to have to deal with the lines. Usually there not too bad at all, and one plus about the queue, you shouldn't have to worry about being hot in the WT line. You'll have a nice cool breeze from the beach (hopefully).

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Umm Peeps lets al remeber the Stupod People Factor. They wait in line with their all the way to the platofrom and then just walk off. Screwing up the line for a long long time. Then lets add the Scared Factor, they get there and they see that its not Gemini and get off saying they are scared. Then there is always the Opps my Buckle came out, or the guy that holds up the line saying, Durrr am I tall enough Durr, or the Lets stand Infront of the yellow line guy, or Can you hold this girl. Its not always gonna hit 1,000 pph And my Factors above prove that. People are Stupid in a crowd. thats how riots start. We all know that.And some ride ops arent as fast as others.

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Steve White:

You can't compare an impulse to a boomerang. Boomerangs have 2 lifts and the ride is about 2.5 minutes long. Impulses are launched, and the ride time is way shorter.

The idea that they both have one train is true, but the ride length of an impulse is so significantly shorter that it makes any comparison pointless.

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Either way you can watch the ladies on the beach while you wait so it isn't a total loss :)

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Fred Thornton said:
Umm Peeps lets al remeber the Stupod People Factor.

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First of all......gosh that statement is just dripping with it, isn't? lol.

Second, The Stupid People Factor is going to come into effect with ALL coasters, not just Wicked Twister. Its a non-issue because all coasters and all ride-ops have to deal with the same thing.

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*** This post was edited by ravenguy98 on 4/6/2002. ***

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RideMan said:
You're not dispatching Raptor on a 0:48 interval no matter how good you are. You might be at 0:48 from floor-up to dispatch, but the ride is too long to have a 48-second interval...actual dispatch interval (from dispatch to next dispatch) is ideally about 64 seconds, is usually more like 70 seconds, and on the day I took the measurements listed earlier in this thread was 88 seconds.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Dave's right on this one. When I timed it last year, I got Raptor's dispatch interval to be about 1:12. That is the time between one train dispatching the next train dispatching. This means about 50 dispatches per hour. I suspect 48 seconds is the time from floor up to dispatch which sounds about right. His time of 88 seconds must have been on an especially bad day or something.

On Magnum, the dispatch interval is about 1:20 or 45 dispatches per hour. The actual time a train spends loading in the station is definitely under a minute because it takes a while for the train to roll in off the ready brakes around the bend.

I don't know why so many people are saying its going to take 90 seconds to load a WT train. I would just about guarantee that from the time a train stops in the station to the time it launches again is going to be under a minute. So assuming the ride is 50 seconds and the load time is 1 minute (and I think they can beat that), that's 32 dispatches per hour or a capacity of 1024. Why is it so difficult for people to understand? :) Sure you're going to have problem guests once in a while, but you're also going to have times where the crew is ready before 1 minute and on an impulse, there's no train in front that you have to wait to clear a block or something. They should be able to launch as soon as they are ready.

Everyone raves about how fast the MF line moves and they have an interval of about 1:37 by my timing. That is only a capacity of 1336 per hour. Magnum and Raptor's lines both move faster than MF's. MF's just moves more consistantly (as WT's probably will) because of the way they count people into the station while on Magnum/Raptor if depends on who is at turnstyles as to how many people get let in at once and how packed the platform is.

Just because you have seen how impulses run at other parks doesn't mean it is going to be the same here. People at CP are not idiots and I'm sure they've thought about these issues.

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