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I do not think hypocrisy is the correct term for this situation rather inconsistancy is more befitting. (end English lesson).

You all are correct that the rule should be enforced across the board. And IMO that *is* a rule that should exist! If one is going to ride coasters with glasses on, one should have a stap to go with (yes I do, and yes I do). I know some (e.g. GregLeg) have proffered that "properly fitting glasses" are not likely to come off. I agree with that statement, but how is a park worker to determine that any given pair of glasses are "properly fitting". Put a strap on them and let's move on.

And I love how you all are saying this is so well written. For the most part, it is, but there is one little thing that has been nagging me since I read it, and it's likely to bother the "higher up" who reads it as well. The crack "the insignificant little minion" just taints the entire diatribe and gives it the feeling that it is simply a "rant", deserving of little more than the standard:


"We deeply regret the unfortunate situations you encountered during your day. Six Flags is committed to delivering the highest quality experience to our guests. We are sorry that we have failed you in this instance. The situations you have denoted are being investigated and will be given our full and prompt consideration. Please accept these discount coupons/tickets as a token of our sypmathy. We deeply thank you for your comments. Again, we apologize for your inconvience and look forward to giving you a better expericence on your next visit. Sincely (insert a name)

But what does that really accomplish? Maybe it's just me. But I think that just painted the entire letter in a different shade....
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"To get inside this head of mine, would take a monkey-wrench, and a lot of wine" Res How I Do

Why would you make such a big deal about glasses man? On some coasters, it's better that you take them off. Ya know, this reminds a lot of that little BGW incident. About the picture thing? The only thing I agree with in your rant/letter is how they closed the rides 1 hour early. Unless that was somewhere clearly stated, that's not something to complain about. Anyways, does anybody know why they close the rides early? I know spmebody said it had something to do with the hyper, but I don't know.

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Jeff,

I just wanna say thanks for puttin a cork in Hurricane Geauga. Hurricane, the lady was not resisting the security guards. She was merely a bit vociferous about her discontent. Hotstyle, if you insist on correcting my grammar, you might want to know that there are no "As" in inconsistency. JDB, your using something called circular logic in your argument. Obviously a 3 feet tall child would not fit in the restraints on a floorless coaster or any other B&M coaster. I as a full grown adult have worn glasses long enough to realize their limitations. If Millenium Force didnt cause them to come off at an 80 degree angle of descent, then BKF is far from a danger. To everyone else who replied, I would like to thank you in earnest again for you feedback.

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Why is that some men are about as fun as kiddie rides ?

Whereas I am talking about a clear missue of grammar you peg me for what amounts to a typo and in the same paragraph misspell one of the most oft mentioned coasters on this site. But if it make you feel better, I bow to your superior command of language.

But if that is all you got out of my post, so be it. I'm sure it was beneficial to someone else.

BTW: It's Jeremy or hostyl (hostyl1 2Hostyl). Please only refer to me with those monikers. Thank you.
jeremy

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"To get inside this head of mine, would take a monkey-wrench, and a lot of wine" Res How I Do

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Also as an adult who has worn glasses for 43 of my 48 years, more than 30 of those years while riding coasters, I'm more than aware of their limitations. I have been asked to remove my glasses on several coasters one time, only to be allowed to wear them at other times (MF, Raptor, Wicked Twister). Inconsistencies happen at all parks. I simply deal with it.

As for coasters closing early (and several other inconsistencies in regard to specific SF park policies), I do agree that their websites could be better updated. It is fine they post information outside the park, afterall, no one can know in advance if certain coasters or rides will not be functioning on any particular day.

But for those of us who travel long distances across states, book hotel rooms, and spend the money on gasoline/airfare, NOT knowing ahead of time that it is "park policy" to close rides an hour early due to residential restrictions would certainly make ME feel cheated. If this is a standard park policy, then it should be made available on the website before someone plans a costly trip, even more especially if this was not the policy a year ago. Sure, one could argue that one hour shouldn't make that much difference, and it doesn't. But being suprised with it does.

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I'd rather die living than live like I'm dead

I just read the "letter" again. I remember way back in a college class on communications that when writing a negative letter two rules are 1) do not appear negative and 2) certainly do not appear insulting. I find those two rules were violated in more than one place.

Not sure what "reaction", if any, it would receive from the powers that be at the park.

One thing that I read earlier that I will comment on (though I probably shouldn't)... HurricaneGeauga's claim that this is nothing more than "flaming the park." Well, on second thought, I''ll let my signature line do all the commenting on that one.

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Kind of hard to take a post as objective if a park or coaster name is part of the "user name"

As Jeremy said, it’s the inconsistency that’s they problem. I was riding Villain last week and was seated next to an off-duty employee. While all other guests where required to remove hats and glasses, this employee rode the entire ride while holding his cell phone and name badge. I wish I had gotten his name and reported him to management.

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Bob M.

SFLake,

How, if any, would you convey your feelings on a bad experience ?? If I am doing my best to illustrate the events of the day, should I completely nullify my point by pointing all the good things ? Lets put this in another perspective. If you go to a high dollar restaurant like say Mortons of Chicago (steakhouse), and you spend upwards of $300 for the meal, dont you expect some degree of regard from the staff. Granted Im not sure where most of you dine, but Id liek to think that if you spend that kind of $$$ on dinner that your experience would be memorable. Well the same applies for me and theme parks. I dont hold much regard for AstroWorld, because it is a poorly run park and oft time neglected. The staff could be ranked somewhere between half-courteous and atrocious, and this is my *home* park. My friends and I would sooner drive 215 miles to SF Fiesta Texas, or 260 miles to SF Over Texas, and often do. I had expected better from one of Six Flags' *pet parks* When I was at Great Adventure in June, the staff made me feel welcome and deserving of my money. When I was at SF St. Louis on Memorial Day, the staff was quite friendly and accommodating. So again I ask you, if the experience was warranting of an invective, how do you convey your feelings without appearing to be vituperative and acrimonious ??

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Why is that some men are about as fun as kiddie rides ?

One other thing: Woody made a very valid point in his reply to my post. Wouldnt a 50% stock decrease entice Six Flags to do everything in its power to maintain their customer base ? I'll buy a season next summer as I always do, but that doesnt mean that my cohorts will, and whether you think so or not, that $60 (avg season pass price) a person does add up in revenues.

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Why is that some men are about as fun as kiddie rides ?

Oh, I didn't say you had to be extremely positive in the letters.

Sorry to point this out, but after reading that letter again, there is just something that sounds... I don't know... very sumg, condescending, and even a little arrogant about it.

No offense... but by quoting the number of parks visited, the 23 years of visiting theme parks, the part about "knowing" company policy because of visiting other parks etc etc etc... well.... sort of comes off like you are trying to sound all "self important". I am an "out sider" and in no way, shape or form associated with anything related to any park... and I certainly have no love for Six Flags... so did not start reading while already on the "defensive"... and I got those negative "impressions" from the letter.

When a person receives a letter like this, there is a very thin line between the reader thinking "this very concerned guest with who has gone to great lengths to point some thigns out" and "Who in the **** does this person think they are?"

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Kind of hard to take a post as objective if a park or coaster name is part of the "user name"

Although it is a bit lengthy, the letter does describe all the issues in detail. A letter of this quality stands a better chance of being noticed and responded to than one that is filled with generalized complaints.

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*** This post was edited by geneticfreak on 8/15/2002. ***

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Wearing croakies has been the best thing for coasters since Herb Schmeck.....I have seen a couple instances where ops hassled riders about glasses, and one occasion at SFA where even a strap didn't satisfy the op, er, Nazi, whatever.....but with croakies, I can see everything, and life is good.

There is one ride even croakies may not help you with, but that's at PKI.....TR:TR.....

Lake,

You have missed part of the point from my writing the letter. By stating the number of parks Ive been to, that should be a clue to the mgmt at SFWOA that I am a repeat customer. If I had been having bad experiences with Six Flags all this time, do you HONESTLY think I would plan my trips around them ? Furthermore, I revert back to my scenario of restaurants. I have eaten at 4 different Ruth Chris in the country. All of them were good in their own way, but none compare to the original in New Orleans. Having said that, Im not saying that all Ruth Chris restaurants are bad, just that maybe the others could use some fine tuning. The same could be said for WOA. I am ALWAYS going to be partial to Magic Mountain, faults, flaws, f___ ups and all. Please bare in mind that this was my MAIDEN voyage to WOA and it just didnt live up to a certain standard I have set in my mind. If that is arrogance then so be it, but before you choose to disparage or castigate my intentions, allow me to point this out: what can be said of all those that agree with me?

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Why is that some men are about as fun as kiddie rides ?

Dude (dudette), stop using the 7 dollar words. Not only are you misusing them (or writing malaprops, as it were), you're misspelling the little words.

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NitroTX31 said:

it just didnt live up to a certain standard I have set in my mind. If that is arrogance then so be it, but before you choose to disparage or castigate my intentions, allow me to point this out: what can be said of all those that agree with me?

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I guess I do not need to point out any more about the appearance of arrogance in your writing. The last few lines of your previous post show that all too well.

Personally, it is none of my business really. Just trying to give some pointers and saving you from looking like an arrogant, pompous a** when the letter is read. But oh well, Nitro, knock yourself out.

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Kind of hard to take a post as objective if a park or coaster name is part of the "user name"



NitroTX31 said:

Lake,

Please bare in mind that this was my MAIDEN voyage to WOA.....


Uhhhhhhh......your Freudian slip is showing. :P

Here's a six-dollar word to consider: Pontificate. There's a whole lot of it going on up in here. You could look it up in the dictionary, but simply translated it means blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, somebody knock me out before I say another word.

It's not how many words you use, it's how skillfully you use them.

I have no problem with your beef with SFWOA.....but I think I saw your English teacher pick up a baseball bat and wanted to keep you safe from harm.

-'Playa

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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

Yeah... what he said...

Playa hit it right on the head. That is the entire point I was driving at... just said in a much better way.

Another quote... I think it was either by Winston Churchill or the Duke of Wellington... "Don't quote Latin. Say what you have to say and sit down."

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Kind of hard to take a post as objective if a park or coaster name is part of the "user name"

Lake,

I appreciate your *good intentions* but its a bit late. The letter was mailed on Tuesday, so I have to let the chips fall where they may. Perhaps it will elicit a favorable response, a harsh one, or none at all. All I can say is this, it would seem that a fair amount of people share my sentiment, no matter how badly worded you and others feel my letter was. I could surely have filled it with four letter words, concise barbs, and hate-filled tirades, but I tried to express myself as best as I could. Pardon me. I guess I wont make that mistake again.

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Why is that some men are about as fun as kiddie rides ?

And as far as you go Playa, there was nothing Freudian about that slip G Ive slipped in more places than I care to elaborate on this board. Lets just say that I might have to take part in a lil coaster riding while checking out a party called *Southern Decadence* in New Orleans next month. Im curious to see how many coaster fans know what that is G

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Why is that some men are about as fun as kiddie rides ?

Geez oh man, get off the guys back! He wrote a very nice letter displaying all the faults of SF:WOA. I don't see what the problem is. Are you all on his back because he made a few slip-ups in his post? Or because you're all over-sensitive about WOA?

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