Windjammer surfer racers (at knotts)

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:30 AM
hi im doing a school report on old rides at knotts barry farm and one of them is windjammer what happend to it? on a personal note i loved the ride. why was it torn out i have a friend who was their somtime in 2001 and said he saw the trains being moved out of the park and one of the workers/managers or someone hitting the ride with a hammer damaging the track the thought they where replacing it but know its Xcelerator

p.s. where can i find a ride like windjammer as i loved it.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:00 AM
Could you repeat that please? This time in English maybe? :)

Happy New Year

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:35 AM
You really should search the forums on this site. If you did, i'm sure you'd find at least one post on why Windjammer was removed.

Anyway, this ride was a perfect example of why Togo sucks. The ride was full of problems, including the trains stalling on the track during winds of less than 10 mph.

Cedar Fair (Or Knott's, whichever has the authority there), sued Togo for the numerous problems on this apparantly defective ride. I believe the court rejected the case (and that's what they get for being stupid enough to hire togo).

Where can you find a ride like Windjammer? Check a dumpster, as they are usually full of garbage.

Sarcasm aside, i'm not sure you could find a ride like WindJammer. Obviously, the idea was a failiure, and the closest you could come would be a ride like Cedar Point's Gemini, or the Dueling Dragons. *** Edited 12/28/2005 8:53:13 AM UTC by Starchaser***

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:05 AM
Or Manhattan Express if you just like the feel of Togos for whatever reason.
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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:32 AM
Hint: Use capitalization and correct grammar in your report. Should help your grade. Search around...there's tons of great Jamer info out there.
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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:22 PM
Make sure the words ouch and lawsuit are included in your report.
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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:09 PM

Peabody said:
Hint: Use capitalization and correct grammar in your report. Should help your grade. Search around...there's tons of great Jamer info out there.

...and learn how to spell Jammer. ;)

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:31 PM
The concept of WindJammer wasn't bad.
The execution of Windjammer, however, was deplorable.

The coaster itself would probably work best as an indoor coaster either as a dark-ride, or a big-mall ride. Somewhere where wind isn't a factor (why the ride has the irony of the name Windjammer yet cannot run in wind is still beyond me... some kind of sick joke, I think).

I liked the look of it, but that has got to hold one of the top records of a coaster in operation for the shortest period of time before being ripped down & replaced.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:40 PM
I think Windjammer comes second behind Rye's Wild Wind - which I don't think ever actually opened. It was constructed and simply sat there for a year as they couldn't get anyone from the state or their insurance company to sign off on it.

I think Windjammer and Steel Dragon 2000 had the same life span.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:41 PM
Seems that is the case with many TOGO rides- great concepts but horrendous execution. Rides like PKD's Shockwave, Great Adventure's Viper and Manhattan Express should have been great but ended up being complete garbage.
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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:45 PM
I actually think all three coasters Rob mentioned are decent. But I'm one of the six people in this solar system that actually like Togos. *** Edited 12/28/2005 9:47:03 PM UTC by Vater***
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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:46 PM
You haven't ridden Fujin Raijin II at Expoland, Mike. ;)
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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:52 PM
Well, it'd be a miricle if I got that opportunity, but I'd be willing to bet cash that I'd like it...if not just a little bit...

SO, how much did it suck? Or rather, what sucked about it, specifically? ;)

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:03 PM

Vater said:
But I'm one of the six people in this solar system that actually like Togos.

I'm two of six! :)

Manhattan Express - best coaster in Vegas...probably.

Viper at SFGAdv - incredibly powerful and not rough in the least. Glad I tried it for myself rather than believing the masses.

Shockwave - Not a problem. Nothing special, but a unique stand-up experience that's hard to find.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:13 PM
I never really thought TOGO's were bad performing coasters. Each one has been neat. But to me, they are just too darn painful!
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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:17 PM
I'm the third, lol. I LOVED Manhattan Express and liked Viper at SFGAdv a bit! But let's just not talk about Skyrider at PCW, which gave me a black eye!
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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:19 PM
Of course you were in mind when I was trying to recall everyone I know who likes Togos, Gonch. As for the other four? No clue...but I overshot the numbers to leave room for anyone else out there. There's gotta be at least a couple more, right? Maybe?
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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:21 PM
Well, there seem to be a few more closet fans coming out. :)

I belive Tekno was in our little group as well.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:04 PM
I've ridden 3 Togos. I enjoyed 1 of them, I kinda enjoyed another of them, and I hated the third. Viper at SFGAdv was the only 1 of the 3 I hated. I only rode it once, so I can't say it was never smooth, but my ride on it in 2003 was awful, it hurt so bad. The only thing I really have against PKD's Shockwave was that it wasn't an incredible thriller. I kinda liked the ride, but it's one I can do without. The other was SFAW's Ultra Twister, which I got a kick out of. I loved that thing.

Basically, I don't think really liking 1 out of 3 rides is enough to define me as a Togo fan.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:03 PM

RedgieF said:
hi im doing a school report on old rides at knotts barry farm and one of them is windjammer what happend to it? on a personal note i loved the ride. why was it torn out i have a friend who was their somtime in 2001 and said he saw the trains being moved out of the park and one of the workers/managers or someone hitting the ride with a hammer damaging the track the thought they where replacing it but know its Xcelerator

p.s. where can i find a ride like windjammer as i loved it.


Find me someone who knows more about the Windjammer Surf Racers coasters and its history than me, and I'll give you a $100 bill. This was the coaster that pushed me into the coaster enthusiast I am today, so I obviously had an obsession with it. ;)

http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=11421

*** Edited 12/29/2005 1:11:56 AM UTC by kRaXLeRidAh***

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