Will the Po!nt Concede its 'Record'?

Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:34 AM
First off, I really, really hope this doesn't turn into a CP vs. MM thread, that is not my intent. I prefer Cedar Point to Magic Mountain any day of the week, even if I'm not a fanboy. I know the better park.

However, many enthusiasts don't consider Superman: The Escape a coaster. SFMM does, but apparently Cedar Point doesn't, since they claim to have the most coasters anywhere.

Next year, however, even if you don't count Superman: The Escape, Cedar Point will at least be 'tied' with SFMM, even though, depending on who you are and what you consider a coaster, SFMM could also be considered to have 17 coasters, while CP has 16, since SFMM is adding a new flyer, and CP is adding a flat.

So, and this is just your thoughts and opinions, not what they shouldn't or should do, do you think CP will still claim to be the "Park with the most Coasters"? Guiness Book can't dispute the fact that SFMM will at the very least have 16 next year, unless they take out Flashback (or something else). Does that mean they both tie for Most Coasters?

Just something to discuss.

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:36 AM
No one has more coasters than Cedar Point, so they have the most... No one said they didn't acknowledge being tied. Look for construction markers...
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Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:37 AM
I think Flashback is leaving SFMM for next year.

It don't run anyhow at SFMM so how can they count it?

Like TTD runs either?

LOL
Chuck

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:42 AM
True about TTD, chuck. Actually, I've heard that Flashback isn't going anywhere from more than one person. I'm not saying it won't, and I think if it doesn't open, it should, but it seems unlikely.

Joe, having the 'most' means no one else has as much. If you and I have more money than everyone else, but both have the same amount, then neither of us have a 'most'. As for construction markers, I know they're getting a Screamin Swing next year, a coaster? Doubt it...

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:46 AM
*shrug* I'll concede because I'm tired.

Well met, Clerk. (yes, it's a quote)

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:47 AM
Will the Po!nt Concede its 'Record'?

No, they are going to appeal for a recount with claims that half of MM's coasters are SBNO and S:TE is not a coaster. ;)

*** Edited 9/10/2005 4:49:47 AM UTC by Antuan***

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:50 AM
So I guess SFMM only has 'around' 16 coasters, right 'Tuan?;)
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Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:05 AM
I really don't see why both parks can't enjoy the title of most coasters in a park.

But then again, I can't see why having the most coasters in a park is really an advantage on a business aspect.

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:20 AM
Record breaking rides haven't exactly done anything for them the last couple of years. Time to take a different marketing angle.

Seems like a small ride to take place of White Water Landing though...

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 2:02 AM

Charles Nungester said:
Like TTD runs either?

I think it's fair to say it runs more consistently than Flashback, at least.

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 2:06 AM
Take place of White Water Landing, Jeff? Who said that was going anywhere? Or am I misreading you?

Joe "taking the place of the *queue* maybe..." C.

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 2:28 AM
Elaborate Jeff. WWL occupies a large area of land (for a small ride replacement?). Plus it's their only true flume ride. Why would they get rid of it?
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Saturday, September 10, 2005 2:52 AM
They will concede "the" record right after they concede their "tallest and fastest" coaster record.
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Saturday, September 10, 2005 3:12 AM
Off topic, but I had a dream Flashback opened the other night. Sadly, I somewhat enjoy the ride, although it is BRUTAL... she has her moments. Definately not for the mainstream.
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Saturday, September 10, 2005 6:35 AM
CP will not get rid of WWL at this point, if they do, it has to be for a coaster. Out of the 14 thimes that I was at the Point thus far, WWL ha a line of at least 15min. People like log flumes because you can ride one anytime without getting soaked.

Though, I see Jeff's point. Wicked Twister will not open the rest of the year, also this includes TTD, which is in the middle of its yearly crisis.

More to the point though, if SFMM only counted their operating coasters, Geauga Lake would have more than them!

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:31 AM
No matter what happens at the Mountain, Cedar Point will still call them selves "America's Roller Coast." Competition for global bragging rights is not something new to Cedar Point.
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Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:46 AM

TeknoScorpion said:
Next year, however, even if you don't count Superman: The Escape, Cedar Point will at least be 'tied' with SFMM, even though, depending on who you are and what you consider a coaster, SFMM could also be considered to have 17 coasters, while CP has 16, since SFMM is adding a new flyer, and CP is adding a flat.

Who told you CP is adding a flat for the 2006 season?

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 8:46 AM
Wicked Twister is down, too???
I guess i missed that somehow.

Claiming you have more coasters sounds better than saying: We have more stalls in our bathrooms! Fully Equiped with EXTRA Toilet paper!!! more, More, MORE!!!

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 8:49 AM
http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=43056

Looks like they are adding a Screaming Swing.

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Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:43 AM
I think retheaming A.R to Disaster Transport was a better business discision then if they put in a Screamin Swing for next year. I think its a dumb idea when they basically have the same thing (MaXair) and that was put in for this year.
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