Will Stand-up Coasters ever offer Cobra Rolls?

Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:15 PM
Does anyone think that a Stand-up Coaster will ever get a Cobra Roll? Is there a reason that it hasen't been done, or has it and I just haven't seen it?

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Is It Opening Day Yet?
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Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:37 PM
There are too many new variations to try something as trivial as a Stand-up Cobra.
People are looking for cutting edge thrill rides and I believe, as do many others, that Stand-ups have had their day.


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If Lifes a Rollercoaster, I want a Flawless
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Monday, March 19, 2001 2:30 AM
Maybe so, but I'm sure that more will be built. When they are, a cobra roll is one element I would love to see!

Jacob
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Monday, March 19, 2001 3:01 AM
The one reason why they haven't been built yet could be they pull too many Gs and translate from inverted to upright too fast for people riding while standing up. You'd get whipped!

On the other hand, have a really large cradle to reduce the whipping i.e Immelman + Dive Loop = Giant Cobra Roll. Same element, no turnaround = Giant Sea Serpent. Or Dive Loop + Immelman = Giant Batwing. Same element, no turnaround = Giant Bowtie.

The same reasons probably apply to non-existent Zero-G Rolls. Well, except for the one on Drayton's Intamin Shockwave.

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*** This post was edited by CoasterGod on 3/19/2001. ***
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Monday, March 19, 2001 5:22 AM
I'm sure if they were "stretched out" and made much fatter and bigger, they would go through it pretty smooth at a nice pace.

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Monday, March 19, 2001 7:35 AM
Also since Stand-ups are in the decline of popularity of firms that build them, I would almost gurantee that the answer would be no.

Standups put way too much stress on the ride and tend to over years produce larger stress fractures than a normal coaster. That, and the fact that injuries can occur to the legs when Gforces are too high. Compression of leg muscles is not a pretty thing. Too much risk involved.

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Monday, March 19, 2001 8:47 AM
In Europe we have only 1! Standup Coaster and 0! Floorless Coasters. Next year we will get 3 - 5 B&M coasters. (SW5 (Flying)- Alton Towers, Superman ...( Floorless)- Movieworld Madrid, Batman ...(Inverted)- Movieworld Madrid, Batman SFH or SFB (Floorless or Standup), Superman... (Floorless) - Movieworld Germany.)
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Monday, March 19, 2001 10:00 AM
How about adding a Zero- G Roll to it?
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Monday, March 19, 2001 10:01 AM

Dustijn Hollon said:
"Standups put way too much stress on the ride and tend to over years produce larger stress fractures than a normal coaster..."

Maybe a standup puts more stress on the riders, but not the ride. The trains are the same weight (close enough, anyway) as a standard sitdown looper. If the center section of the cobra roll was large enough (like the first element after the drop) it would be possible.

Along the same lines... Why are Standups the only B&M's to feature the inclined loop? (Mantis, Chang & Riddler) I think a floorless or inverted would be cool with an inclined loop.

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"X" marks the spot in 2001!
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Monday, March 19, 2001 10:16 AM
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if no more standups are built for a while.
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Monday, March 19, 2001 11:20 AM
It's too bad, but I do think that stand ups may not be very popular in the coming years.

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Monday, March 19, 2001 12:38 PM

Soggy said:
Along the same lines... Why are Standups the only B&M's to feature the inclined loop? (Mantis, Chang & Riddler) I think a floorless or inverted would be cool with an inclined loop.


Soggy, Talon will be the world's first inverted coaster WITH an incline Loop
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Monday, March 19, 2001 12:57 PM
I agree about the waning popularity of standups. This is probably why SFA ditched plans to build one this year, and why they may never build one.
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Monday, March 19, 2001 12:58 PM
An incline loop on Talon? Where? I thought the elements were...
Drop
Vertical loop
Zero G Roll
Immelman
270° overbanked turnaround***
"S" Curve
Corkscrew
Helix

***I do not think this is the same as an inclined loop. (and does not count as in inversion either) An incline loop is a vertical loop tilted at an angle. This is a bit different. Here is a pic of Chang's Inclined Loop http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery275.htm?Picture=8

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"X" marks the spot in 2001!

*** This post was edited by Soggy on 3/19/2001. ***
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Monday, March 19, 2001 1:26 PM
V2,, inverted loop? oh yeah, Raging Bull was the first to have that,, those are fun as hell! especially cause you think youre going to fall outta the train.
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Monday, March 19, 2001 1:53 PM
To bad because I love stand-ups.
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magic mountain and CP rule
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Monday, March 19, 2001 1:58 PM
I said INCLINED loop not inverted...
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