Not only for the average park goer, but for all the peolple that have rv's and like to camp at the parks. I can't emagine what it would cost to haul a trailer or rv long distance.
What are your thoughts on this?
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I was going to go to Dorney today to get my pass processed (45 minute drive and with gas and tolls it's a little over $20). I decided I'll wait to go next week when the park is open and dead instead of going on opening day as my original plan was to get my pass processed before opening day as the line on opening day can easily be 2 hours to process the pass. If gas was $1.50 - $2.00 a gallon or maybe even $2.25, I would have gone today *** Edited 5/3/2007 1:50:06 AM UTC by YoshiFan***
If anything I think it will affect some enthusiasts more than anything. We're the ones who generally try to spend a bunch of time at the parks and try to visit multiple parks each year. Sometimes we even take long road trips. I can see some people deciding to take it easier this summer due to the gas prices, but not most.
Your typical family who only visits one park once each summer shouldn't be affected by the higher gas prices.
(and I didn't even use any math ;) )
Let's say your gas tank holds thirteen gallons of gas and you were paying $2.50 a gallon--that would come to $32.50. Now let's say that gas goes up to $3.00 a gallon--that would come to $39.00. And as they say on "The Price is Right," that's a difference of $6.50.
Is $6.50 really going to keep a family or your buddies from traveling to a park? I highly doubt it. If it does, then I'd say you need to look at your income a little bit more closely.
And if the vehicle you're driving causes you to stop multiple times for refills, maybe it's time to trade it in for something a little bit more economical. No one is forcing you to drive the Hummer or Excursion. *** Edited 5/3/2007 4:14:36 AM UTC by Intamin Fan***
Attendance was down at a lot of parks this past summer, but in park spending was up. That tells me that less people are traveling long distance to get to a park, so they are going to the local park and spending the money that they would have spent on traveling expences.
Say you have an suv. It's going to coast a lot more than just $6.50 a tank of gas, and it may take that person several tanks of gas to get from point a to point b. And even more if you have a camper.
Nobody is forcing anyone to drive an suv, but let's face it...look at all the cars out on the road. Most of them are suv's or mini vans. I agree that people need to start looking at what they are driving.
And with all the people losing there jobs these days, it makes people think twice before making a big investment like a family vacation to a far away place. So gas price does play a role in that. *** Edited 5/3/2007 4:55:03 AM UTC by crazy horse***
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I develop Superior Solitaire when not riding coasters.
Arthur Bahl
I guess there's no real formula for this. If people want to go, they'll probably go.
People will tend to stay more regionaly vs. making a larger trip to somewhere further away.
Let's take, for instance, the area I'm in. WNY is in the Buffalo market. There are a number of parks in the regional area including Darien Lake, Cedar Point, Geauga Lake, Great Escape, & Dorney Park to name a few...
...people will be more inclined to stay in the area and travel no more than a few hundred miles vs. parks that are more of a destination that they would LIKE to hit, but would wind up costing them a couple hundred more for the entire trip, including trips down South such as all the Orlando parks, or maybe even Busch Gardens... and to a lesser extent for the coaster-nut... Holiday World.
...with gas prices climbing, and being nearly a dollar higher than it should be, that dollar adds up quickly, even for a vehicle that's fairly decent on gas-milage.
HOWEVER, that won't deter people from enjoying themselves... they'll just tend to do it more locally within maybe a 350 mile radius or so (essentially a one-tank trip 1-way trip). **
** that's my theory & I'm stickin' with it!
I drive a Yamaha Motor Scooter most of the time to keep my Gas Costs down, using my Ranger only for Out of Town trips and Inclement Weather. There is one group of people I have NO SYMPATHY for regarding these Gas Prices. Those who insist on having HUGE Trucks or SUVs or "Muscle Cars" because "They want to be seen in them". In other words, they bought them ONLY as a Status Symbol. These are the ones who cry out the largest whenever the cost of Gas goes up. If they only bought what they needed (As I have done) we wouldn't have these problems with Gas Prices! We have the Technology to make 100 MPG Vehicles, but nobody wants them because they wont go over 45 miles per hour! As for all of those who have bought these Gas Guzzlers, Let them reap what they have sown!
*** Edited 5/3/2007 3:53:21 PM UTC by Borntocoast***
...but I also thought practical and ahead of time. I get up to 430 miles all-highway per tank (14.5gal)... but I'm still one of the major complainers of gas-prices because it kills all of us. Not just those guzzlers that get 1-mile per gallon who suck down those quater-pound cheeseburgers in those old fashion non-biodegradable styrofoam containers with whale skin hubcaps & all leather cow interior... but also those who drive a Prius or other 'hybrid' like vehicles. Sometimes, those are the cheapest of the people... they could barely afford a powerful vehicle, so they're really scrimpting & saving to fill up their car each week! I think the Hummer owners, Navigator owners & '72 Nova owners know what they get into when they buy their car.
Anyway... you can have fun, but only at someone else's expense. Unless you're sitting pretty with some extra coinage you've saved up for the summer (ie: tax-returns), a lot of people will be making their trips a lot closer-to-home... it's been proven with a lot of reports when the gas-prices stay jacked up as they are now.
Man, I can only imagine what'll happen if another hurricane hits shore.
crazy horse said:
Well, they are now saying that gas could reach $4 a gallon by summer.
I have not read one single article that has said tht gas is going up to $4 a gallon by summer. In fact, most of the articles I've been reading said that gas prices will be coming down by the summer.
And Crazy Horse, I totally disagree that most of the people these days are driving SUVs and Minivans. The small/er car is definitely making a comeback.
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