Will fuel prices hold you back this summer?

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Lord Gonchar said:
Tempted to buy an SUV just to piss people off ;)

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Hug a tree you Republican bastard! ;)

(EDIT - sorry, accidentally hit edit instead of quote on this one, Jeff - LG)

*** Edited 4/18/2005 9:36:00 PM UTC by Lord Gonchar***

Republicans hugging trees? I don't think so... :)

eightdotthree said: Tempted to rant about driving an suv to work...

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UBRhino said: Tempted to rant about people who BUY SUV's.

Oh please, rant away. Don't let my SUV-driving ass stop you. ;)

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Jeff said:
Hug a tree you Republican bastard!

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Why hug it when I could cut it down for profit? ;)

There is a coaster nut who drives 15,000 miles per year?!

How do you manage that?

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
(average 22,287 per year since this time in 2001...)

Agreed Lord Gonchar.

Or you can buy the Ford Escape Hybrid or the upcoming Lexus SUV Hybrid and still be a tree-hugger

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Jeff said:

(EDIT - sorry, accidentally hit edit instead of quote on this one, Jeff - LG)

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You know, I was "watching" while all of that was going on, I thought Lord G musta had a *three-martini lunch*...;)

Sometimes I'll edit my stuff three or four times before it "takes", and missing the edit/quote button makes it more interesting....of course, giving me the ability to edit OTHERS' posts, that would just be irresposnsible...;)

That's what happens when you have 27 things going on at once.

If it only happens once every 3700 posts, then I'm doing ok. ;)

LOLTHIS thred is posted at the start of EVERY season... and it is ALWAYS The same answer: NO

Instead of ranting about SUV's, why don't you all go plant some trees. Also, you all might want to inform yourselves on timber companies and how many trees they plant vs. the number they cut down. Put it this way, you all would have to spend every waking hour of the rest of your lives planting trees to get within 10% of their total net gain.

Its all part of the same problem stuey. Paper, gas, we are all too wastefull.

I am no saint, but I took special care when buying a car so that it fit my needs. It gets great gas milage and I can still fill it up with stuff.

We are heading straight into another gas crisis like we had in the 70s, cars have been getting bigger and bigger, gas prices have been rising, and now the oil wells we depend on to fill our oversized tanks are on fire. If I didnt have a mountain to climb to get home I would ride my bike to work more often.

Don't forget that as China and India become more modernized with more of their population purchasing and driving cars that the demand is only going to increase. The competition for the remaining oil reserves will get hotter and prices will only go up. That's why my next car is going to run on biodiesel.

Stuey, one reason why they plant more than they harvest is that they are removing huge ancient trees and replacing one old one with several smaller ones. They know they're coming back to harvest those trees once they are big enough and those trees won't ever grow as big as the ones cut down. For anybody who spends any amount of time in the woods it's evident when you are in a 'replanted' forest. And they still leave entire hillsides devoid of any vegetation at all which creates several problems for local ecosystems. As an environmental attorney I have far more compelling industries to combat, but the timber industry isn't an angel.

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RideMan said:
There is a coaster nut who drives 15,000 miles per year?!

How do you manage that?

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
(average 22,287 per year since this time in 2001...)

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Dave, I only work 2 minutes from home so that helps :)

Not to mention most of the places I go that are remotely far away, I fly because I hate driving long distances.

-Josh

LOL, I was thinking....the way I manage to keep the mileage on MY car low is by driving RENTALS...;)

1. If you're going to cry about trees begin cut down, stay off of wooden coasters.

2. Add up ALL of your automobile expenses over a year and figure out how much it costs. You might save a few hundred or even over a thousand on fuel if the vehicle stayed parked in your driveway or garage all year long. But you'd still be paying insurance, registration, license fees, you'd still need to change the oil every so often even if you hardly ever move the car, etc., etc.

3. Europeans pay much more for gas than Americans because 75-80 percent of the price is taxes. I suppose that pays for all that "free" stuff they have over there that we don't have here.

4. I just read that, when adjusted for inflation, gas prices in the early 80's were still higher than they are today. They'd be the equivalent of $3.00 or more a gallon.

5. Repeat Item 1.

"3. Europeans pay much more for gas than Americans because 75-80 percent of the price is taxes. I suppose that pays for all that "free" stuff they have over there that we don't have here."

SHHHHHH! Don't say that too loud and give Governor Rendell (PA) any NEW ideas. But then again... already happening here. Raise taxes and "fees" in all of Pennsylvania so the (finacially dying) public transportation systems in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh don't have to raise their fees a single nickle.

RE: to eight dot three..

How do you define too wasteful? The more trees we use, the more are planted because the demand for more trees becomes necessary. Timber companies plant way more trees than they use. Why would a timber company want to destroy their most valuable asset? I am originally from northern Louisiana and there is a museum in my town that shows pictures of the landscape back in the late 1800's. It looked like western Kansas..now the entire area is nothing but trees. That is true for most of the South. Just take a flight from Dallas to S. Carolina sometime. It's 90% trees. I'm all for old growth preservation and I disagree with cutting those down. Everyone focuses on the 1% of land that is temporarily clear cut and not the other 99%. There are more trees now in North America than almost
any time in history. This is a little off topic, but it's a good illustration. You can take every man, woman and child on Earth, place them in the state of TX and each person would have 1200 square feet to themselves.

OK, it's SAT time once again...

Wooden Coasters: Overall lumber usage:: Enthusiasts: Overall park guests

What is wood WASTED on? Paper/paper products, and fuel in developing countries...

Why am I having visions of the Simpsons episode where Lisa lives in the tree to stop the loggers? :)