"The only real limit to height is what people are willing to get on." - Ron Toomer
MagnumForce: Gemini does have upstops, but they're pads, not wheels! :)
Moxie: Not quite Cola, not quite Root Beer, not quite Asphalt!
Model coasters and rides: www.angelfire.com/oh4/tk173
1.) Millennium Force 2.) Steel Eel 3.) Raptor 4.) Mantis 5.) Magnum XL-200
About the roughest: I'm from southwestern Ohio and we've got some big bad rough woodies in our neck of the tri-state, so maybe I've desensitized myself to the fact and can do them pretty much anywhere now! I get that's just better for me if I can stand, enjoy, and appreciate them.
It's still the best coaster Cedar Point has to offer.:)
Without the chaindog, you'd never get up the lifthill...
Phly the Pheonix
john peck said:
Anyone on this post who finds Magnum "rough" is using the wrong terminology.
Arrow, the people who literally invented the modern steel coaster have made their rides to track well, run smoothly and last for decades. Their design and welding methods have been very successful within the amusement, space and aviation industry.
However, the computer technology they were using in the Mid Eighties and early Nineties was a little off, so what you may find "rough" is an underdeveloped transition. The undercarriage design on many of their rides is also slightly underdeveloped for Arrow has the tendency to space their guide and upstop wheels further from the track rails.
So when the coaster makes a transition, the wheels will bang in that direction as they guide the train along its designed course.
Also, since Arrow trailer many of their trains, you will find a unique "shuffel" while trotting along the track.
So, in a nutshell, the rides are not "rough" , they have violent transitions.
*** This post was edited by john peck on 11/24/2001. ***
LOL - you may have explained WHY it's rough, but it's still rough. There's no doubt the Magnum was a rough coaster when i rode it this year (first time). It was not just the G's and lateral forces - although those hurt too with the lap bar. Especially compared to riding the similar Pepsi Max at Blackpool in it's first year which was pretty smooth. Arrow coasters seem to have a jarring roughness that i really dislike, vs woodies i can tolerate better - rode in the front on Mean Streak and really enjoyed it.
Nuts! I read this thread hoping to learn more about metal detectors. Plus, everyone knows the reason why Magnum is so rough is because it keeps sinking.
LOL - you may have explained WHY it's rough, but it's still rough.
That was the original question.
Magnum was 12 years old at the time of this thread which is also 12 years old. What a coinkydink.
Magnum was designed to be a STEEL COASTER that gave a wooden type ride, Something it accomplishes in everything but rapid change of direction.
You wanna complain? Mean Streak is just back <<<<< that way.
Oh my, looking back at what a young John Peck said. Too funny! Okay, if that's how you want to define it, fine by me. I was on it about 2 weeks ago, and yes, it's still pretty intense.
The reason why? Oh, let's say the trains aren't padded enough.
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