Why doesn't Six Flags invest in a CCI Woodie?

Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:36 PM
I can understand why Six Flags does not make many woodies, due to the maintenance and cost, but when they make woodies they are not of the CCI variety.  Why is this?  Is there some type of deal going on?  Alos, which is the best CCI woodie in your opinion? I have only ridden one (Ghostrider) and I would love to ride more of them. Whats your opinion?
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:40 PM
Based solely on the way SF *maintains* their current crop of woodies, and the way Twisted Sisters is *maintained*, I don't really see the point, beyond the opening year of operations...maybe one or two more if we are really lucky!  Wooden coasters are WAY cheaper to build...other than SoB...but the maintenance they require IS a BIG deal, and apparently SF isn't THAT interested...
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:50 PM
I think that the GP also tends to like steel a little more then wood.
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:50 PM
The boss?  The villain?
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:50 PM
Steel coasters seem to be the in thing right now... it all goes in cycles, though.  Remember the late 80s to early 90s?  Lots of good wooden coasters built then.  It'll come back around.

And I can say that a park's maintainence of a wood coaster depends on the park and its staff... SFOG os pretty good about keeping their woodies in good condition.

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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:51 PM

CoasterSaurus said:
I think that the GP also tends to like steel a little more then wood.
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Not true.  Not true at all. 

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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:51 PM

MisterX said:
Remember the late 80s to early 90s? 
 


 

The best wooden coaster year in history is easily 2000.  remember that year?


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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:54 PM

hypercoasterman said:
"I can understand why Six Flags does not make many woodies, due to the maintenance and cost, but when they make woodies they are not of the CCI variety."

What do you mean? The last three woodies in North American SF parks (BOSS, Medusa, Villain) were all CCI coasters. And there just isnt another woodie in the plans.
jeremy
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:57 PM
Good one!  I forgot about medusa. 
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:00 PM
Viper is awesome at SFGAM and it was made by Six Flags, as for other CCI's I have yet to ride a bad one, not even the Jr. Coasters.  Pegasus at Big Chiefs is a Jr. Coaster that is one of the most fun rides I have ever ridden and it is wicked too massive lateral's.  Cyclops has the most air I have ever experienced, and Zeus is totally out of control.  Raven and Legend are so unbelievable its unreal, no way any steal coaster can beat those two.  Hoosier hurricane is great and Cornball Express is amazing how it packs so much into so little.  Twisted Sisters is just downright wicked it seems so fast even though its nto really.  Anyway CCI's are unbelievable truly works of art, hence my signature.
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:02 PM
In answer to your Sig,
Heck no! :)
Unless a park let's the coaster go to heck.

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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:07 PM
A lot of the issue with 'bad wood' so to speak is the fact that some of these coasters, i.e. Psyclone, Collossus, etc. were built long before the CCI reign.  The truth is that CCI does indeed build amazing coasters, but they are also in 'vogue' right now too.  Don't forget that.  Not too long ago, we were praising Dinn Summers....  I am not comparing CCI to DS regardless, just thought I'd throw that at you all.

Hypercoasterman, I have ridden a number of CCI's and I think you have ridden their best (my personal favorite coaster), but Timber Terror and Shivering Timbers are NOT slouches!  Amazing air..........:)

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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:32 PM
Don't forget the international parks.... Spain is getting s new woodie, and don't forget Robin Hood, etc...!
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:52 PM
Robin Hood is Vekoma wood, as are Loup Garou and ThunderCoaster.  Together with Intamin, European parks are using *gasp*, companies other than CCI/GCI to build wooden coasters...we'll have to get some here and try them out...;~)!  I want MORE wooden coasters, although I guess that's being a little greedy since I still haven't gotten to half the "bumper harvest" of 2000...
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:00 PM
What is GP?
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:20 PM

seasupersonic said:
"What is GP?

Genral Public

I think were going to see alot more woodies ESSPECIALLY CCI, with the economy going down and the fact that Six Flags has to repay debts to many desingers and pay off bills, and to get good rides for cheap, the only options are wood and Vekoma. They have already used option number 2 several times! The GP always looks at Woodies as old rides, always classics and know their not in for a soomth ride. So that is how they like woodies alot.


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So what is better? SFMM or CP? I don't care! They both have 29 coasters between them that they build so we can have a good time!


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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:50 PM
My question isn't why doesn't SF build any CCI's (because they do, all their new woodies are CCI or GCI) but why isn't CP getting a new CCI? 
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Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:54 PM
What MagnumForce said.
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Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:27 AM

ravenguy98 said:
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CoasterSaurus said:
I think that the GP also tends to like steel a little more then wood.
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Not true.  Not true at all.  "



Raven, I'm going to have to respectfully dissent and agree with the 'Saurus. I really *do* think the majority of park attendees prefer steel to wooden coasters. Steel coasters are higher, faster, and do more. Most woodies look old and rickety (which scares some people off). Plus, woodie jostle riders around more (on the average) and believe it or not, there is a vast amount of people who DONT like that (though I have no idea why not :)).

I think in general, so-called *enthusiasts* like woodies better, but other folks would rather have steel.
lata,
jeremy
--course it could just be an age/generational/nostalgia thing..

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Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:47 AM
2hostyl...could it also be that most members of the GP just haven't gotten to ride the woodies WE have.  I know if Rolling Thunder was the ONLY wooden coaster I'd ever ridden, I'd say "I prefer steel"...when in reality they'd love woodies if they got to ride *properly maintained* rides...just thinking...(and I am aware how dangerous that can be...LOL).
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