Why actually make a suggestion for CoasterBuzz?

Your comments are shot down as soon as you post them up- no one cares- "This is a business."

The site urges you to join the silly CoasterBuzz club. If you complain about the ads on this site, people start to attack you saying, "Just pay the $20."

This is not a site for the user, but rather a sponge trying to soak up all of the money that it can. "Don't use pop-up blockers." Why not? So certain people can continually make a profit off of a silly website.

Notice that good websites don't make a profit. They're here for the better of the internet community, not just to make some quick cash with ads and nearly forcing your users to cough up $20 just to use the site in a easy way.

Notice when someone complains about an ad, he replies, "Profits have been down." Well, about a year or two ago, he said that this website didn't make a profit.

Your mom's calling. Go back to bed.

What I'm trying to understand is the use of all the inappropriate ads on the website. It seems like the motivation is that if Jeff uses these ads, than more people would join the club. That's not that case. It would make me not want to join the club at all.

I don't agree with you that Coasterbuzz is intended to make a profit. Hell, I don't know why Jeff does it in the first place.

What really gets me is how and why we can't live our lives without all the constant interuptions. Pop-up adds and telemarketing are the biggest culprits. The excuses are lame as to why we need to put up with all the nonsense of them too. It's all horse crap in the end. Telephones and computers are supposed to make our lives easier and more enjoyable, but in reality they cause us more daily aggrevation and expense because of people who exploit them for business and profit with little regard to how rude it is to interrupt someone doing something legitimate. Isn't it bad enough that I have to daily throw away the bulk of my mail without ever opening it because it's all junk solicitation adds?

Well that's one of my bigger pet peeves anyway. Happy Thanksgiving all!! :)

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Site have to make money. With a site the size of CoasterBuzz, it is NOT CHEAP to host.

I've had a Club membership for a while now. It's nice - no ads of any kind.

My only pet peeve is that when using a library computer, it won't let me log in. The library filter calls the login page "A restricted site"

Ads are needed for two simple reasons:

1. To make enough money to cover the bandwidth used by non-paying users of the site - the site gets a stack of hits a day, which costs money, as does the actual space it's hosted on.

2. Jeff does this site in his spare time - he does have a life, after all. Spare time doesn't come cheap!

Want to see the site without ads? pay the $20 or don't visit. I myself am a non-paying user, and i happily accept the ads are needed to increase the income to keep the site running!

That's my two cents, anyway.

*climbs down from soapbox*

EDIT: This suggestions forum is for ways to improve the design and structure of the site, suggestion of new areas to include, etc. Also known as a feedback forum, it's not for ripping apart the use of ads - there isn't a day goes past that I don't see a post somewhere, not just in here, that digs at the ads. *** Edited 11/24/2005 4:29:30 PM UTC by Bazzanoid***

Its like a broken record around here, even I get annoyed by the complaining all the time. If you dislike it so much, go out, buy a book on asp or php and start building the Coasterbuzz killer.

You seem to like the site enough to keep coming back, so you get value from it. So pony up and pay, or keep enjoying the site for free. When was the last time you got a free magazine? Or a free tv show? Or a free movie?

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coasterwiz said:
Notice that good websites don't make a profit. They're here for the better of the internet community, not just to make some quick cash with ads and nearly forcing your users to cough up $20 just to use the site in a easy way.

Oh please. That's like saying Google is in it for the good of mankind. I ask you, do you think the parks are in it for charity? They're working hard to get your money too. Why don't you complain about them.

8.3 has it right... the complaining gets old. Without money, there is no CoasterBuzz. Let me repeat... Without money, there is no CoasterBuzz. Get over it. If you don't like it, go build your own site or go bother someone else. This isn't just a hobby for me anymore, it's part of what pays the bills. If you have a problem with the idea that I can put food on my table with this site, then that's your problem. I'm not going to apologize for making money doing something I like.

It's really this simple: If you find value in the site, you can put up with the ads to pay for it, or you can join the club. If neither of these situations are acceptable, then you don't find value in the site and you stop coming here. See how easy that is?

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If you read a magazine, nearly 1 in 3 pages is an advertisement. If you watch tv, there are about 2 minutes of advertisements for every 10 minutes of programming. If you listen to the Howard Stern show on the radio, there are 15 minute commercial breaks. My point? That's life. The site may be free to the end user, but it sure as hell isn't free to produce or run. If you're complaining about the ads, do this--do a Google search for webhosting, and see what the rates are for websites that handle this much traffic every month. Face it--Jeff is paying hundreds upon hundreds of dollars to keep Coasterbuzz up, and all he gets is a bunch of people whining that he has advertisements up. When Jeff refers to profits, he's not referring to money going into his pocket, he's referring to the gross amount of money he receives from the ads, which sounds like is barely enough to break even.

I'm wondering why people get so annoyed about ads on a website when they seem to accept them just about everywhere else. TV, radio, billboards (along the road, in sports stadiums and even in amusement parks), magazines, movies, theaters. Heck, how many of you have a little decal or sticker type thing on the back of your car that the dealership put there with their name/logo on it?

Delivering quality content on a popular site costs money - plain and simple. Ads cover that.

Maintaining a quality, high traffic website takes effort and time and ads compensate for that.

Notice that good websites don't make a profit. They're here for the better of the internet community, not just to make some quick cash with ads and nearly forcing your users to cough up $20 just to use the site in a easy way.

I disagree with that entirely. Most websites worth looking at anymore that have any kind of real user base at all use advertising to offset the investments (in both time and money) that it takes to run them.

Seriously, point me to a high traffic, quality site that doesn't compensate itself in some way. (even more interested in if you can limit yourself to amusement park/roller coaster sites)

What I'm trying to understand is the use of all the inappropriate ads on the website.

Innapproprite is subjective. Don't label us all with your personal values.

Telephones and computers are supposed to make our lives easier and more enjoyable, but in reality they cause us more daily aggrevation and expense because of people who exploit them for business and profit with little regard to how rude it is to interrupt someone doing something legitimate.

Wow. I really wish I had something for that. It's not that I agree, it's that it's so far from any line of thought I'm capable of conjuring that my mind simply cannot grasp a proper response.

Exploit? Wow.

Comparing ads on a website you choose to view to a telemarker call? Wow.

Aggrevation? Over advertising? Really? Really really?

Eh, whatever. You guys can moan, but I think Jeff has made it quite clear that this is not going to change anytime soon. Repeated threads on the subject are akin to a child saying "please mom" over and over again all day long (think the Simpsons where Bart and Lisa hound Homer with, "Can we go to Mount Splashmore")

Sadly, the same old response still applies. You either:

Deal with it
Pay to play
Don't come back

It's really not that hard.

EDIT - Been awhile since I've had an 'in after close' post. :)

*** Edited 11/24/2005 5:21:51 PM UTC by Lord Gonchar***

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Closed topic.