Who's Heard of a pretzel knot.

Friday, December 8, 2006 6:05 PM
I was looking at a coaster when I realized that their was some thing wrong. Their was a element I did not know. It was a pretzel knot. To see some pic's go to http://www.rcdb.com/id1292.htm

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Keep your head high and the coaster's higher.

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Friday, December 8, 2006 6:10 PM
Looks like a bowtie element on an Arrow Looper.
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Friday, December 8, 2006 6:17 PM
I think that element was unique to Moonsault Scramble. It's essentially just an Arrow boomerang with the entrance and exit crossed over each other instead of side by side.
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Friday, December 8, 2006 6:27 PM
It looks a lot like B&M's batwing element on Montu.

Also am I wrong or didnt Orient Express @ WOF have this element (but it was called the "Kamakazi dive") *** Edited 12/8/2006 11:28:27 PM UTC by Touchdown***

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Friday, December 8, 2006 7:05 PM
Orient Express had the standard issue Arrow boomerang/B&M batwing thingy. See Acoustic's explanation.

http://www.rcdb.com/ig21.htm?picture=2 *** Edited 12/9/2006 12:06:40 AM UTC by matt.***

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Friday, December 8, 2006 8:52 PM
Wish that was there when I went....I think Nasai has ridden it though....bastard :)
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Friday, December 8, 2006 10:59 PM
Orient Express was the first coaster to use the boomerang inversion (what Arrow called it), except on that first installation they called it the kamikaze kurve. It is essentially the same as the batwing that B&M uses.
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Saturday, December 9, 2006 1:08 AM
The B&M flyers also have "pretzel loops" which, if you're not splitting hairs, look pretty similar. I would imagine the G's are quite a bit stronger than in the Arrow variety though.

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1568.htm?picture=19

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Saturday, December 9, 2006 9:34 AM
Hey now, why is it ok that he's posted a link to his site? Shouldn't a mod be removing that? Settle down CoasterKid, and stop begging people to visit your site.
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Saturday, December 9, 2006 1:29 PM

Peabody said:
Wish that was there when I went....I think Nasai has ridden it though....bastard

You rang?

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Saturday, December 9, 2006 2:19 PM
Orient Express. *tear* How do I miss thee... and Zambezi Zinger too. :*(
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Sunday, December 10, 2006 1:36 AM
What, no love for EXT and Schussboomer? ;) How abou Timber Wolf pre-1994. Memories....
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Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:53 AM

SFGAdv lover said:
Hey now, why is it ok that he's posted a link to his site? Shouldn't a mod be removing that? Settle down CoasterKid, and stop begging people to visit your site.

I'm not a mod (obviously) but by putting the link at the end of all of his posts he's pretty much using it as his sig - without actually using it as an automatic sig.

I have no idea if there is a difference in policy if the signature is posted automatically or posted manually.

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:03 AM
Actually, the pretzel knot is unique, and not like the batwing element on B&M's or the bowtie element on the Arrows. Normally, the track doesn't cross over itself in a bowtie/batwing element. The pretzel loop track actually crosses over itself, as if you were tying a knot.
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Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:44 AM
My current favorite iteration of what I would call a Pretzel Loop is at TusenFryd in Norway on Speed Monster.

It is essentially an inverted loop, or as close as we will ever see on a standard sit down coaster.

Thnink B and M pretzel only with half a twist on both exit and entrance.

http://rcdb.com/ig3245.htm?picture=11

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:50 PM
AV - I rode EXT but I never liked it (I was really young) and I never got a chance to ride Schussboomer as I was BARELY too short the last year it was there. I rode the heck out of Silly Serpent though. :)
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Sunday, December 10, 2006 1:47 PM
Speed Monster sorta look's like a giga coaster.

Keep your head high and the coasters higher.

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:22 PM
I still think Moonsault was the first Hypercoaster....
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Monday, December 11, 2006 12:06 AM
It held the world record for years, as the first coaster (well) over 200ft. Who cares if it wasn't a full circuit?

It WAS massively intense. When have you seen a coaster go up the first spike backwards? :)

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Monday, December 11, 2006 12:29 AM
Did it launch you backward then give you another boost going forward?
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