Whizzer to be saved, Shockwave takes the fall

Even thou I havent rode hte shockwave its basicaly the same ride as the Scream Machine at SFgadv,and all they need to do is tone that that turn up into the mid-course brakes after the 3loops,becuase it can be painfull.

So.....is anyone who likes Shockwave going to do a "SAVE SHOCKWAVE" petition??? I don't see why they can't keep both. Although Shockwave seems to almost never have a line. I still think it's a good ride. I really hate to see any ride go, especially at my home park :,(

I will miss Shockwave... but has this actually been confirmed???

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Is it possible that Shockwave is going to SFStL. They need to get rid of Ninja and replace it with a smoother ride. It could make its way to SFFT they need a new corkscrew coaster after Joker's Jinx is most likey no more.

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How about this for a Shockwave theory: Suppose they retrofit the trains with lapbars only? Could that happen? (Hey, they did it to FOF at PKI why not Shockwave?) Wouldn't it make it a much better ride? I'm asking this in all seriousness though. (I know very little about coasters and will be the first to admit to that fact.) With a hypothetical retrofit like that, a LOT of parks would like to have that ride.

And on a personal side note, I say send it (with or without OTSR's) on down to SFKK. We'd be greatfull as all git-out to y'all fer sich a fine coaster as that! :)

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I don't see why not unless you have clearance issues wiht the train and supports. You would also have to leave the seats at the same height, the reason why to keep the seats at the same height is becasue it can make it more rough becasue of how it's designed. The seats can be moved forwards or backwards on the train to give room for the lapbars also with lap bars the train back will not be as bulky as with OTS. The Lapbars lock below or on the floor. On an Arrow tran there's plenty of leg room for a lap bar.

My home park with The Orient Express I ridden that so many times and asked myself is lapbars possible. The answer was yes but some clearance issues with the train and supports must be addressed before the train can get them. The most noticeable clearance problem is at the final helix, A Support comes I swear within 3 feet of my head. I also notice that The Arm gaurd would have to be bigger in the change too to keep people from having their arm going out of the side of the train. In the Interlocking Loops if you can stick your arm out you could lose it.

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But Mamoosh.....

I thought you told me that it was too late to save the Whizzer? LOL

It's good to know that SF is at least listening to it's guests. But it sounds like they had to in this case. Jiminy Crickets what were they thinking?

Shaggy

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Shaggy

R.I.P. Maestro
Phantom Theater 1992-2002

This was the correct decision. Whizzer is the only speedracer left in the US. The park has 2 arrow loopers, which is repetitive. Shockwave was created in the "bigger is better, more loops is better" fad coaster days, when there was little regard for quality, just numbers to try to be impressive. There is a lot more space there to put in a major ride, and that area definitely needs re-landscaped.

I also vote for a floorless. They are awesome coasters, and not as much mechanics involved as flying (floor drops out at station vs trains with mechanicals on each seat--which means less downtime and maintenance).

Great another flipping ride the parking lot. This makes me so pissed off. I am venting as a very upset customer. I am going to send a letter to Six FLags asking them to save the Shockwave. I will call them everyday until my phone becomes disconnected.

Another issue is I hope they reroute the service rode around the outside of the park. This will allow them to reorganize the layout to incorporate the ride into the park experience for a multitude of reasons. Shockwave always just felt left out of the park experience. It was out in the middle of the parking lot and you had to walk five minutes to get to the ride.

I also found this to be one of my favorite rides and I have a major grievance with SFGAM.

I'M DONE VENTING.

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I HATE how Shockwave looks as if it was a last minute decision..... which it was... as um... this new coaster's new locale looks to be.

But I will not lament the loss of Shockwave. That thing holds the record for being the first coaster to grey me out. But of course the slam into the brake run does it's best to wake you up. I hate it.

Hmmm.... Drachen Fire.... Shockwave.... I see a trend folks....

Shaggy

Who is hoping that SFGAM takes the initiative and at least rips out the pavement this time.

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R.I.P. Maestro
Phantom Theater 1992-2002

*** This post was edited by Shaggy on 8/9/2002. ***

YEE HA! What a surprise. I guess that it is good that Whizzer is staying. That will keep some of the family clientele in the park.

I used to love Shockwave so much, but this year it just gave me a major headache. It was like that coaster just kept getting rougher and rougher each year. I really hope that these supposed fact are true about it's removal.

And I do agree with all you that they need to rip out the pavement and actually "landscape' the entire area, especially for the new coaster....

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Goodbye Whizzer- 1976-2002.
Going coaster riding soon!
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Goodbye Shockwave(??)- 1988-2002.
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I think we should all wait for the announcement of next year's new attraction. But let's keep the following in mind:

1). While the rumor continues to be for a Flyer, Six Flags is known to pull last-minute switcheroos of rides

2). It's possible that a Wild Mouse type ride would go where Power Dive once stood for 2003, and a bigger, better ride go in for 2004 on Shockwave site

3). Perhaps Shockwave goes to Jazzland, along with the re-located B&M from Japan, along with the Six Flags re-branding for 2003

I guess who knows at this point?

I'm really suprised no one said anything about a 4D coming. Although there is like a 99% chance of it not happening, it would certainly draw crowds.

A B&M floorless is most logical. I could only think of a B&M Flyer if not a floorless.

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How much more floorless can they get?

I can't beleive they would even DEBATE on removing Shockwave over Whizzer. I know Shockwave is as rough as a gravel road...so don't bag on me for that. There is one simple thing that drives a park to do anything :making some cash.

Now think like a member of the GP. You go to this park...it's big...and ahs alot of coasters. Would you more likely ride this big blue monster with 7 inversions that towers over most of the rides in the park. Or would you more likely ride this 28 year old tiny lil ride with a ramp for a drop? I know that Whizzer has "history"...but does it really open people's pockets? I doubt that they would even debate removing Shockwave...that big blue torture device does one thing very well...brings people in.

Having done my rambling...this is my conclusion. Whizzer stays...so does Shockwave. There will be some major revamping going on over the winter to find some room...and that B&M of theirs....well they might jsut have to wait a year for it.

I think I sounded logical...

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No Limits is every enthusiasts best friend! :)

What would you rather have, a big blue monster that most guests no longer ride, or a new thrill machine to advertise the hell out of?

And yes, I'd venture to say that a ride like Whizzer is much more profitable than one like Shockwave when one considers the overall appeal of each ride. Teens ride a lot, families spend a lot.

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"When will you stop all your buzzing?" - The Flaming Lips "Oh My Pregnant Head" *** This post was edited by chris on 8/9/2002. ***

Chris, you hit the nail squarely on the head with this statement...

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Teens ride a lot, families spend a lot.

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I believe THAT is why they saved the Whizzer...they (finally) figured out that it would send families, with money to spend, somewhere else...

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