where would hersheypark add another coaster

Wednesday, August 7, 2002 7:05 PM
Any idea on where one might go? It seems there is no room unless they tear down a coaster like the trailblazer or the sooperdooper looper
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Wednesday, August 7, 2002 7:36 PM

They have more room than you can even think of. Look across the road from the parking lot entrance... Can you say bridge???

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Wednesday, August 7, 2002 7:44 PM
Ya, but parks like that aren't that great. SFKK has one bridge and it takes forever to get from the front to T2 and Twisted Twins.

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Wednesday, August 7, 2002 8:47 PM

There is also plenty of room near Lighting Racer. If you still don't believe there is room for a coaster than go make a trip to Indiana Beach and take a gander at the amount of space that they have to work with and what they have placed in the park!

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Wednesday, August 7, 2002 11:25 PM
Isn't there a nice lot between Lightning Racer and Wildcat? They have plenty of options though.
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Thursday, August 8, 2002 12:24 AM

That area you talking about is where they gather everyone for there Lazer Light Show.

My guess would be they'd put it atop other rides like the Pepsi Big Max at Blackpool PB.

What about behind the Comet? Along the stream toward the enterance. I'm not sure how much room is there but I'm guessing there would be enough room for an out and back similar to a Steel Force/ Magnum layout.

My other guess would be that it could wrap around other rides kind of how the train or monorail wrap around other rides.

Here's my hyper proposal. Have the station between Roller Soaker and Lightning Racer, the lift will go up between LR and the road. Turn to the left and the drop will be behind the Music Express, Turn left again and go behind the Wildcat. Then either cross the walkways back to the station or go someplace else (maybe toward the Frontieer Chute Out) then back to the station. I never took notice to how close the fence is to the rides but it may be probable.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 5:18 AM

We were at Hershey last evening. While on the Ferris Wheel, I noticed the "empty lot" between LR and WC... at the base of the Ferris Wheel (on the wild mouse side of the wheel). Two things: 1) as my wife noted, that is probably where people gather for the Laser show and 2) part of that looks to be a drainage / retention area. Not sure how usefull that land will be.

Not sure of the status of the land... but there is that long strip of land on the opposite side of Hersheypark Drive. From the Ferris Wheel you can see that the old air strip is still there. However, this land could figure into future expansions. Roads can always be bridged (or gone under). Good examples of this are already underway at Hershey. Not sure the name of the road (could be Park Ave, but not sure) that starts at Rt 743 just on the park side of the bridge over the RR tracks, runs between the RR tracks and the park, then past the back enterance to Choc.World and then swings north between the parking lots on the Park side and the Giant Center and then connects with HP drive and Rt 39 at the light. This road has both been bridged (from the Giant Center parking lots to Hersheypark's tram turn around) by a foot bridge, and gone under with a road way that will serve as the main exit for Giant Center lots.

I don't think a bridge (or bridges) across HP drive is all that unreasonable. Spring Creek is already bridged in at least 3 places (maybe more, not sure) in the middle of the park. The creeks running through Dorney and Knoebels are criss crossed by bridges. The large creek running through BGW is also criss crossed by bridges... inlcuding the very long San Marco bridge. Bridging the roadway would be not all that different... just bridging asphalt instead of water. And the advantage, you can also go UNDER it. (of course, not sure what regulations PennDot would put on it since you are dealing with a state highway)

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 5:28 AM
Why not move the parking lot accross the street and expand into the current lot. Build a bridge or two for pedestrians to cross the street.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 7:29 AM
Look at Comet Valley at Hershey or at Indiana Beach, and you'll be able to see ways to pack in more rides in existing areas. With regards to drainage and retention areas, there is not reason that a coaster can't be built over them since the footers of a coaster do little to restrict water flow. Hershey, SFDL, IB, HW and others all have coasters built in part over lakes.
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Thursday, August 8, 2002 8:02 AM

True enough about the retention area comment and footers not restricting the flow of water. However, IF the open area that is used for the Laser show is to remain open, then the only other area to build something would be the retention area... and if you are building a coaster (or any ride for that matter), you need queues, stations, etc. Those are not good to build over retention areas. IF they would choose to build in the open area where the people gather for the laser show... well, it is not exactly all that huge of an area (though from the top of the ferris wheel it does certainly stick out as a good spot of open land).

Actually, I can see some sort of flat ride going in there quicker than another coaster... if they would in fact decide to use that land. Besides, a coaster in that area would mean it would have to be intertwined around existing rides. Hershey has no problem doing that (i.e. Great Bear), but I am not sure if they would be all that excited about doing it in Midway America which they are trying to keep looking like a "traditional" park.

Still say the best bet would be across HP Drive.

Oh, and I forgot... as far as Hershey and bridges across roads or streets. ZooAmerica and Hersheypark are separated by Rt 743 and connected by a foot bridge and ZooAmerica doesn't seem to be hurting for visitors. The idea that bridges cause problems just doesn't fly in my book.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 8:06 AM
Just look at pictures of LoCoSuMo or Cornball Expess. Under, over, around, in, wherever. I'm sure they could put an Intamin hyper/giga that flies above some stuff :~D. There's almost always room.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 8:53 AM

In my recent travels to HP, I have noticed that there is some land between LR/Roller Soaker and the fence/Rte. 743. It's not a lot of land, but it would be enough to build much of the course for an out 'n back (hyper or not). There is also a bare patch of land between LR and Roller Soaker that could be used for a station house. All of this would be a tight fit, but it's possible. That being said, I don't think it would happen. As mentioned, HP does want to keep Midway America looking "boardwalk nostalgic". I don't think a steel hyper would be an appropriate fit. They could put a wood out 'n back, but they already have a dogleg out 'n back woodie with Comet. It's possible, but I just don't see it happening. In fact, I think it would be more likely that a new flat ride goes in the space between RS and LR...since it is in the "water" area of the park, maybe it could be a certain type of top spin (*crossing fingers*).

Then there is the possibility of moving across the street at Midway America...don't look for that to happen. The hotel and the school are over there and I don't think they want to begin move into that area and ruin the ambiance that has been created over there. It is certainly possible, but I don't think it will happen.

There are two options that I think may happen.

Option 1. Move further into the parking lots. That's how Midway America was born and I think they may do it again by moving into the parking lot between Hershey Stadium and the road. One problem that this may cause is the loss of parking. But many people may not realize that there is a field across the road from the new Giant Center that Hershey uses for overflow parking on their extremely busy days (such as a summer Saturday when there is a concert going on at the same time)...I actually had to park in that lot a couple Saturday's ago when Brooks and Dunn was playing at the Stadium. Even though that lot was used, there was still plenty of extra field for more parking. I think that in the very near future, that field may get paved and turned into parking.

Option 2. Let's see...They just built a brand new arena (Giant Center). Do they plan on keeping the old arena? (maybe they do, but I haven't heard either way) If they tear down the old arena, that space can be used for expansion.

I don't think you will see them put an attraction in the "retention field" because the lazer shows are very popular. Even the laser shows at Christmas Candylane are packed.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 9:11 AM

the "unofficial" word is that Hersheypark Arena stays.

Its future consists of being "home ice" for Lebanon Valley College's hockey team... the LVC Flying Dutchman... practice ice for the Hershey Bears (who's home ice will be the Giant Center)... public skating... and as a secondary venu when Giant Center is in use.

There had been talk way in the past of an East Coast League hockey team moving into there... however that was sort of squashed with the appearance of the Reading Royals a few miles down the road.

The parking lots around Hersheypark Arena... that is another story. I would not be surprised to see some those disappear. There is a foot bridge linking lots around the Giant Center with the existing lots around the Arena / Stadium / Park complex that connect up with the far turn around loop of the tram road way. It is possible that parking could eventually flow into there when Giant Center is not in use... but who knows.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 12:31 PM
They could put it behind sooperdooperlooper.

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Thursday, August 8, 2002 5:55 PM
I cant see Hershey getting a hyper/giga. They seem to keep there rides on the less intrense sides and not go for monsters. I say less intense, but not fun. I think they build rides more the family and not the thrill seeker, though I enjoy all their rides
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Thursday, August 8, 2002 7:26 PM

There really is only one "weak" coaster at HP, and I'll leave it to you all discussssss which one it isssss.....Oh, and Roller Soaker has the highest fun factor of any coaster that travels at those speeds....:). But seriously, there's room....and I thought the back seat on WildCat was plenty intense....

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Friday, August 9, 2002 8:54 AM

rollergator said:

There really is only one "weak" coaster at HP, and I'll leave it to you all discussssss which one it isssss.....

Ironically, that "weak" coaster has my favorite helix in the park...it's just too bad that it's the only thing that coaster has...LOL

Happy Coastering!

Sean

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Friday, August 9, 2002 9:10 AM

freakylick, unlessssss I've forgotten sssssometing at HP, I was referring to the Sssssidewinder, which really was the only "dud" there IMO....the only coaster that got "one for the count"-ed

.....the Mouse was really good, but no better than PKD's Ricochet (which is also very good for a mouse)....but until I get to another Arrow Mad Mouse, MiA has "the best mouse in the house", other than the Reverchons....

Roller Soaker was an AWESOME addition, for families, waterpark lovers, and enthusiasts alike.....great ride, great fun....:) bill, already figuring out how to move to Hershey without becoming totally addicted to chocolate...

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Friday, August 9, 2002 9:57 AM

You guys really overestinmate how much room it takes to make a coaster. especially the out and back variety. Look at Shivering Timbers, Magnum, Steel Force Etc.

Magnum starts in the park and goes out of it. ST takes up a long very narrow sliver of land. Steel Force goes along a very narrow piece of land at the edge of the park.

An out and back hyper would be fine. The competion (DP) has one and they also have an out and back Woodie. So saying that A hyper out and back or not would not fit is a bit ridiculous.

As for intensity, GB is very intense. Those foot choppers on the speed track, the starting helix, the pullout after the corkscrew, al add up to a physical and mental drain. Why people think a coaster that has anywhere close to that kind of intensity would not "fit" at Hershey Park is beyond me.

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Friday, August 9, 2002 10:33 AM

MF, I am in total agreement about the "space (non)issue"....after seeing Cornball, room is never a REAL issue....

which leaves Hershey fine for space (there really IS enough room)....but DOES make me wonder what's up in Gurnee....

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