When will west coast get a new flyer?

Saturday, August 30, 2003 4:39 PM
I'm curious as to what are the thoughts about the pacific coast getting a replacement for Stealth. With the money problems, can the Flags put one in their Ca parks? Would CF step up to the plate? Too extreme for Disney?

Whatever, whenever, I hope it's not a Zamperla...

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Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:02 PM
Well, it's certainly a prime opportunity for a west coast park to reclaim a Flyer. I doubt Disney would do it unless it's CA Adventures. Maybe SF will relocate one of it's east coast flyers out west, LOL. You know, this might become the new trend once again. SF started it back when they took Z-Force from SFGAm, to SFoG, then to SFMM. It is the most economical thing to do when your broke! Plus, it adds a new attraction at the same time......
I for one have not ridden Stealth and since Carowinds is my home park, I'm kinda lookin forward to it, even if it is a VeCOMA, umm I mean Vekoma.
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Saturday, August 30, 2003 6:18 PM
I can certainly envision SFEV moving -- or removing -- Wild Thing and placing a Superman-themed flyer in the spot that coaster plus the small employee lot takes up.

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Saturday, August 30, 2003 6:51 PM
Of course! So that when I move south next year, I'll still have no nearby flyer...

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Saturday, August 30, 2003 11:13 PM
You're not missing much, in my opinion. Flyers are possibly the most overrated coasters. Admittedly, my first ride on one was awesome, as the experience was brand new, but every re-ride I've had since has been utterly unspectacular.

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Saturday, August 30, 2003 11:33 PM
Agreed, the first ride is unique, but with each successive ride, they become less and less spectacular. By no means are they "bad" rides, but I can't see them holding their popularity like the good old B&M Inverts have.
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Sunday, August 31, 2003 7:40 AM
It'd be interesting, at least to me, if Disney would get a custom one at DCA and theme it as a bigger brother to Soarin'. Imagine...near misses with a replica of Half-Dome, pretzel loop around a Golden Gate replica, etc etc.

Could actually be really cool. Would never happen, but it'd still be cool.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 11:23 AM
I would imagine that SFMM would get one, perhaps once Six Flags finds it prudent to start making big investments again.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 12:51 PM

Never!! Give me $100 million and I will tear down X-Flight and sent it your way! $100 Million dollars!!
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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 2:48 PM
I think the problem of Flyers not being interesting is one that can be remedied by putting them in a more interesting environment.

Take for instance the new location for Stealth at Carowinds, situated on an island and partially over water. Matching the Flyer to an interesting environment would provide a more exciting, and lasting ride experience.

I think that parks in the future are going to move towards doing this with their new Flyers, and away from the "let's just plop this on a boring midway or slab of dirt" mentality that we've mostly seen so far.

I think both CP and BGW are places (among others) that I could see building a Flyer in the future, and weaving it among trees for a more exciting ride experience. They certainly have ample trees for such a placement.

Regardless, I think this is the way Flyers are going to have to move if they don't want to become like the Stand-Ups of the 90's.

Take care and God bless! :)

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 5:24 PM

Mamoosh said:
I can certainly envision SFEV moving -- or removing -- Wild Thing and placing a Superman-themed flyer in the spot that coaster plus the small employee lot takes up.

Yay, I get to disagree with Moosh...:). I definitely do NOT see that park as getting investments on that scale. I think that park will be *generating* cash to funnel into parks with more....*upside*. The potential for that park is limited, competition even more limited...great investment, but not anything I'd sink a ton of cash into....;)

Next west-coast park to get a flyer....SFMM '05 (at the earliest), B&M....I don't *think* any more Vekoma flyers will be built in the states...but then again, I'd have said the same about TFC, so what do *I* know...;).

A Z-flyer really *could* work, but probably not a good idea at a park with the crowds that SFMM generates...it might be a cool thing over a boardwalk pier though...;)

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Wednesday, September 3, 2003 11:34 AM

rollergator said:

Next west-coast park to get a flyer....SFMM '05 (at the earliest), B&M....I don't *think* any more Vekoma flyers will be built in the states...but then again, I'd have said the same about TFC, so what do *I* know...;).

A Z-flyer really *could* work, but probably not a good idea at a park with the crowds that SFMM generates...it might be a cool thing over a boardwalk pier though...;)


Well you're still right about TFC. Ontario isn't a state of the United States, last time I checked. ;)

But yeah, no more Vekoma flyers for the US--just the standard Superman cookie cutter B&M courtesy of our favorite chain, Six Flags ! Superman: The Flight After the Escape. ;)

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Wednesday, September 3, 2003 12:53 PM
I expect there will be a B&M flyer installed at one of the three Texas SF parks, but I think that it would most likely go to SFOT...or SFFT...it would be wishful thinking for SFAW to get one.

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