When will the first 400 foot tall coaster be built
I don't think another 100ft would make matainence sky rocket
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You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye.
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You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye.
I think SFWoA,SFGaM, CP, IOA, and a Japanese park would be the ones who would be interested and could afford it!
I think that Braddon R is right. There is no need for a four hundred foot coaster the general public views superman as a 400 foot coaster sorry to say but the industry does not aim to please us enthusiasts they need something that is gonna pull in crowds. Also after the coaster boom of last year left a lot of parks with everything they need for a while when attendance becomes a factor they will have new campaigns but it will never get to where every park is a point or mountain. The kind of park that will most likely get it is one that is not all about theming not all about coasters has a lot of very close competition and needs a gimmicky ride like this. The farm and WOA come to mind.
Also i do not see an s&s coaqster being noted as THE 400 foot coaster those are often seen as to close to a superman type ride.
Also i do not see an s&s coaqster being noted as THE 400 foot coaster those are often seen as to close to a superman type ride.
Thanks Nosk8er. I hope the farm gets one. But the real idea is that Knotts has NO room at all for a 400 foot coaster. They could be creative and possibly get a hyper or giga, but even that is pushing it. Cedar Point does not need a 400 foot coaster. With Magnum and Millenium Force, it is not logical to get another coaster that is so closely related. The first will likely come in the form of a Thrust Air, but I as well of the rest of the world have no clue which park will build it.
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Home Park: Knotts Berry Farm!
but also Disneyland and DCA
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Home Park: Knotts Berry Farm!
but also Disneyland and DCA
These are my picks of parks, if a 400 ft coaster is made:
Six Flags- SFGAM or SFWOA
Paramount- PGA or PKI
Universal- Port Adventura or Islands of Adventure
Cedar Fair- CP or KBF
Six Flags- SFGAM or SFWOA
Paramount- PGA or PKI
Universal- Port Adventura or Islands of Adventure
Cedar Fair- CP or KBF
CoasterFanMatt said:
"I hope the farm gets one. But the real idea is that Knotts has NO room at all for a 400 foot coaster. They could be creative and possibly get a hyper or giga, but even that is pushing it."
Knott's does NOT have a space problem. They could be creative and surprise everyone. Who would have thought they had enough room for an award-winning woodie like Ghostrider?
(...and if this type of message sounds vaguely familiar, well, I won't claim it's a coincidence)
*** This post was edited by biggs on 5/15/2001. ***
I don't know, when the CEO of Cedar Fair says:
"The basic difference between Knott’s and our other parks is the amount of land available. When we put a ride in there we have to take a ride out. It’s not like Cedar Point, Worlds of Fun or Valleyfair where we have a lot land surrounding the park and we can just add on. We’re sort of confined to about 57 acres out there in a residential park." (CoasterBuzz IAAPA interview, 11/00)
...I'm inclined to think the park does have a space problem.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
"The basic difference between Knott’s and our other parks is the amount of land available. When we put a ride in there we have to take a ride out. It’s not like Cedar Point, Worlds of Fun or Valleyfair where we have a lot land surrounding the park and we can just add on. We’re sort of confined to about 57 acres out there in a residential park." (CoasterBuzz IAAPA interview, 11/00)
...I'm inclined to think the park does have a space problem.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
The coaster wouldnt take as many people away from the M.Force because of the airtime and the angle of the first drop. If there was a 400+ coaster and it was a 80 degree angle then people would forget a bout the M.Force. There is still long lines for the Magnum.
I can't say that an S&S coaster would be looked at like the superman ride. The one they have built is only the first one. There will be others with different designs. When the time comes to build one, there will be a good fight over who gets it first.
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You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye.
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You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye.
There is already one at SFMM. If you don't consider this a coaster you must not consider any other shuttle coasters such as S:UE, vekoma boomerangs and invertigos. So the two v2's arn't coasters and neither are the 3 Deja Vu's. Guess SFMM won't be braking the record for most coasters this year. It's a rollercoaster! it's over 400 feet!
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up with spongebob sqaurepants!
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up with spongebob sqaurepants!
Great American Hamburgers, I think the question is referring to one of those old fashioned gravity powered rollercoasters, or at least one that's a complete circuit.
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- Peabody
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- Peabody
so batman and robin the chiller isn't a coaster your saying.
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up with spongebob sqaurepants!
I don't think a complete circuit 400-footer is going to happen very soon, at least it won't be a traditional roller coaster like Millennium Force. We've only just broken 300 feet, and barely broken that mark. It took eleven years to go from Magnum to MF, and I think it'll take that kuch time to go to 400 feet. Why would a park need to build a 400-footer when we are still at awe at 300 feet?
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"If we built a ride that everyone wanted to ride, it would be called an elevator, and that's not an amusement ride."
-Stan Checketts, S&S Power
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"If we built a ride that everyone wanted to ride, it would be called an elevator, and that's not an amusement ride."
-Stan Checketts, S&S Power
It's not surprising that everyone is forgetting one important element in building any 400ft. coaster-the neighbors. Do you seriously think any community near an amusement park would allow them to build a 400ft. full circuit roller coaster? I don't think so. And don't forget about air traffic.
It won't be CP. Why would they deter you away from MF and Magnum? Look for CP to catch up in other breeds of coasters they do not have.
MF cost $25 million dollars. How many parks can absorb that in America? Not many. Think about it, what's the most your home park has spent in one year for a new attraction. Heck, CP added no new rides this year just to catch up.
MF cost $25 million dollars. How many parks can absorb that in America? Not many. Think about it, what's the most your home park has spent in one year for a new attraction. Heck, CP added no new rides this year just to catch up.
great american hamburgers said:
"so batman and robin the chiller isn't a coaster your saying."
Where did I say anything like that? (When I rode it, it felt like a rollercoaster to me!) Try reading my previous post again, slowly if it helps. I was mearly pointing out that the discussion has been about traditional rollercoasters, the kind that are a circuit and are usually powered by good old gravity. (There is usually no room for "what is a rollercoaster" debates in this forum", it just couses too much noise and too many flame wars) If the question was when will the first 400 ft tall shuttle be built, then the answer would be that one has been built, in 1996 at SFMM.
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