When will the first 400 foot tall coaster be built

Sunday, May 13, 2001 4:09 PM
I think that it will take its home in Cedar Point and in 2004, and it will be built by B&M or Intamin.
Sunday, May 13, 2001 4:12 PM
Isn't it @ SFMM?

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Sunday, May 13, 2001 4:14 PM
I doubt it. B&M was consulted to build Millennium Force and they turned it down. I don't see them wanting Intamin doing it either. It would just be another MF. I think if Cedar Point did get a 400ft coaster it would be by S&S Sports Power. It would be a different type of coaster with some height.

I also don't think that it will be in 2004. Cedar Point is no focused on getting on the height record. There are so many other types of coasters they can get.

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Sunday, May 13, 2001 4:23 PM
Most likely the first 400 ft complete circuit coaster will be an S&S, and probably sooner than you would think. (Stan Checketts was quoted as saying hs is building one that will go WAY over 100MPH. Bet it will be over 400 ft.)

As for traditional coaster, who knows?

- Peabody
Sunday, May 13, 2001 5:01 PM
bigkirby, I said first 400 foot tall COASTER. Not first 400 foot tall thrill ride.
Sunday, May 13, 2001 5:45 PM

Go Full Force said:
"bigkirby, I said first 400 foot tall COASTER. Not first 400 foot tall thrill ride."

It took me a while to realize Superman @ SFMM was a coaster. And if CP gets it, I will be suprised!


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Sunday, May 13, 2001 7:19 PM
This isn't fact, this is speculation:

The first rollercoaster that will break the 400' mark will probably be a Thrust Air 2000 coaster probably in five years. They have bragged (S&S) that their coasters will blast off faster, with more force, and at a much greater height than their prototype & with Hypersonic XLC.

If that doesn't take place, then I would have to seriously say that if there will be a FULL CIRCUIT 400' coaster that will be built, it will most likely take place in around TEN years. I don't say this because of the time span between Millennium Force and Magnum XL-200.

I say this because of funds. Your funds for a coaster greater than 300' will start increasing exponentially. If you grow to 325, 350, 375, and 400 feet... your price for those coasters will be exponentially greater since you need a greater pull out, much more track, and much more space to accomodiate the speed and intensity of that coaster.

I'd think that a Thrust Air would be more likely to break the 400' barrier faster because the whole basis of the coaster isn't just the immediate thrust of air, but the initial vertical hill and verticle drop, which saves on a LOT of steel unlike your typical hyper (ie: coaster with no loops depending on speed for its main attraction) coaster.

That's just my speculation (overall well thought out guess, not off the top of my head!!!)
Sunday, May 13, 2001 7:23 PM
It will go to CP!

mikey :)
Monday, May 14, 2001 7:55 AM
I have to agree with Peabody and Dawg Byte. It would be so inexpensive and effortless to get a coaster 400+ ft. coaster build by S&S. *** This post was edited by CPgenius on 5/14/2001. ***
Monday, May 14, 2001 8:00 AM
I bet it will take half the time to get from 300 to 400 then it did from 200 to 300 so 4 ot 5 year from last season when the 300 level was reached. Sounds like a good time frame so 2004 or 2005 sounds like the year to break 400
Monday, May 14, 2001 9:12 AM
CP in 2010 or 2011, dont know why, just go with them because they usually are the first to try to break the height records.

CP in 2002, get to the point
Monday, May 14, 2001 11:49 AM
It would go to japan and think it took over 30 years to get from 100ft to 200ft!

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Monday, May 14, 2001 11:52 AM
In order to get to 400 feet with out using a lot of room someone could come up with a switch back track to climb up to the top. or use the train of the park If a park with that much hill exist. Say like at 6 Flags Fiesta they could have a hill start on the canyon edge and go up. Thus reducing the amount of Steal under the track *** This post was edited by YZ10 on 5/14/2001. ***
Monday, May 14, 2001 12:01 PM
Cedar Point will most likely have the first 400+ coaster. I think it will rise in about six years because of the technology we have today. It took 30 years to get from 100 to 200 and only 10 from 200 to 300 so 2004 or 2006 will be the year!
Monday, May 14, 2001 12:22 PM
Jeff's avatar Why would Cedar Point build one. What for? They don't need it.

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Monday, May 14, 2001 12:46 PM
I agree that S&S will probably build a 400+ coaster but I don't think it will go at Cedar Point.
If they built one in 4 or 5 years it would take more people away from Millenium Force and to this new coaster. This would be throwing money down the drain. Anyways they already have a giga so there is really no need.

Monday, May 14, 2001 1:12 PM
I think this is a ways off - plus the cost would be unreal!


Monday, May 14, 2001 1:30 PM
I say look 60 miles east of CP, that's right SFWoA. They have the room and need the WOW factor, which they are lacking.

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Monday, May 14, 2001 1:37 PM
Correction, you WANT Cedar Point to get a 400 ft. for 2004... Will it happen? :) Going up another 400 feet in just four years is quite a feet, determining that A.) It's been taking at least 10 years to go up a hundred feet, and B.) Millennium Force cost a whoooole lot of money. With the way our econmy is going right now, we won't see that big a coaster with that big a price tag for quite a while.

I think it will probably go in Japan, since they seem to try and break all the records anyways.

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Monday, May 14, 2001 1:53 PM
I agree with Jeff, is there really a need for a 400ft coaster? Would it be worth the headaches and maintanance this thing would take. I think the world will be quite happy with 200ft and 300ft coasters till the end of time. I don't think people realize how high a bench mark CP has set with MF...

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