What's up w/ the 4D track designs on Arrow's site?

rollergator said:
Of course, then you have to get marketing to "sell" the ride that ISN'T an -EST ride....which must be harder than it seems....

You can always say it's the BEST. The GP will bite this bait more than most people think. Even if it isn't the tallest, fastest, or longest, best certainly will get you there. And you can't go wrong with best, because it may be!...just depending on who you ask!

The only problem with that is many people associate "tallest" or "fastest" with "best".

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Yep... so therefore if you say "best" most GP don't know if it is the tallest or fastest. Either way best is always a safe bet!

"Best" still has "-est" in it, though.

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You could also say it is the first*

*on the East coast

as they did with sooperdooperlooper and Steel Force and what they will soon do with Superman:Ultimate Flight.

Whatever encourages big business to build more...

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kRaXLeRidAh said:

Those models were intended to be the first Fourth Dimension designs put out on the market. Six Flags, Inc. wanted to take the concept further than Arrow Dynamics had even proposed to do in the first place.
Has anyone heard of any confirmation of this from SF or Arrow? Because I see it thrown around a lot and it sounds like a load of crap. If Arrow didn't want to do it, why did they go ahead and do it?

I bet you that most people outside of Southern California have no idea what a 4D rollercoaster is and they have no clue that one even exists. Go around and talk to no enthusiast types and I am sure that most of them have never heard of it. That has been my experience. A park on the east coast or Europe would have to problem marketing a 100ft tall 4D.

You'd be surprised, rolacostaking... I constantly hear about X from "GP" friends and relatives. Go to a park, and keep your ears open in line, and I guarantee that you'll overhear someone talking about the 4D.

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With all the ways of communication now.....I'm with BullGuy. X has been on Discovery Channel and Travel Channel already! My guess is they heard about it from there, and then the grapevine passed the word around! I know a lot of non enthusiasts here in TN that have heard about X!

Draegs said:
Exactly what crash said...
With X costing something like $25million, what park can really afford an even larger version of that ride? Let alone the question of who really needs one.
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Nagashima ;)

When X debuted, about 90% of television stations nationwide either ran a story on it or mentioned it briefly on the air. I would definitely say that the majority of America knows what X is and what it does.

The great thing about the 4d is it's ability to be built on one plane (ala Screaming Squirrel). Parks with little or no space could put one of these babies in with a very narrow strip of land and have a great coaster without sacrificing land.

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Vertigo said:

Draegs said:
Exactly what crash said...
With X costing something like $25million, what park can really afford an even larger version of that ride? Let alone the question of who really needs one.
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Not after all the money and resources they dumped in on the Steel Dragon 2000 project...

Chris Godsey said:

I would definitely say that the majority of America knows what X is and what it does.

You're telling me that if I went out on the street and asked people about X - more than 1 in 2 would be able to tell me what it is and what it does? Dude, I live 20 minutes away from SFNE, and the majority of people here wouldn't be able to tell me what Mindbender is and what it does, much less a rollercoaster on the other side of the continent.

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My bad, Let me re-phrase what I said..

I believe the majority of theme park visitors nationwide have heard of X in that it being a rollercoaster that has seats that rotate or "flip". They might not know any technical terms, but they definitely saw something about it on television. I can't think of anything other than the Markey crap getting more television coverage nationwide than the X opening. If anyone else can think of anything, let me know. I know that SFMM's PR department was SWAMPED with news media queries last fall and winter.

I agree Chris. My friends back in New York, Buffalo and ATL said ABC, CBS and WB ran footage of it when it first opened. They all also are as dumb as a bag of leaves when it comes to coasters.

I want to agree with Ravenguy, but as hard as it is to believe, I think a lot of people know about X. Even my mom called me to tell me she had watched a cable special about it.

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kRaXLeRidAhm, Nagashima is funded like your normal parks, especially when the same family at the top owns a multi-million dollar company outside of the Amusement Industry. It's like saying Universal could not afford anything for three years preceeding the opening of Islands of Adventure, which cost multiple times more. Steel Dragon 2000 was $50 million while Islands of Adventure was $700 to $800 million, and California Adventure, Downtown Disney, and Disneyâ€™s Grand Californian Hotel cost approximately 1.4 billion dollars.

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Mmmm... I think if you asked on the street in Zanesville, OH, maybe 1 in 500 people MIGHT know about X. Might.

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I gave a report over X last year, and no one knew about it. The report was given locally at like 11 at night, so I doubt a lot of people around where I live saw it.

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