What's up w/ the 4D track designs on Arrow's site?

Monday, November 4, 2002 6:00 PM

Octophobia, Mayhem, Delirium, and Quatutum are the track options on the Arrow website. All the designs are about or under 100ft. Wouldn't a park want a taller version than X?

http://www.arrowdynamics.com/products/4D/index.php.

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Monday, November 4, 2002 6:10 PM
They are catering the 4-Ds to the smaller parks that want cheaper, but effective thrill rides to bring in droves of guest without braking the bank.

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Monday, November 4, 2002 6:10 PM
Do you really need all the height when most of the thrill is involved in seats flipping over?

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Monday, November 4, 2002 6:11 PM
They might, but then they would look at SFMM's taller version and say, maybe not. It's probably the super-size drop that's causing the train problems with X. Arrow wasn't ready to build a 4D of that magnitude yet, obviously.

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Monday, November 4, 2002 6:16 PM
Maybe with the shorter size, the ride will not be as rough and there will be less wear and tear on the trains.

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Monday, November 4, 2002 6:54 PM
From what I read (never rode X before) People love that insane first free fall drop.

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Monday, November 4, 2002 7:01 PM
Talk about insane first drops, check out the Mayhem model. That drop looks saweet. I wonder how the riders are positioned for that?
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Monday, November 4, 2002 7:04 PM
what park is Mayhem model in? just curious.
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Monday, November 4, 2002 7:11 PM
In response to the question-nothing yet. Let's hope something becomes of them. Even though they are smaller, I would rather have one of these at SFGAdv then have X on the other side of the country (sorry that I am so selfish:-D)

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Monday, November 4, 2002 7:15 PM

You guys seem to be misinformed. Those models were intended to be the first Fourth Dimension designs put out on the market. Six Flags, Inc. wanted to take the concept further than Arrow Dynamics had even proposed to do in the first place. The result? X at Magic Mountain. A 175' lift into a 215' Sky-Dive, two raven turns, a half spin, all in 3,610' of track.

Think of X as the version that is "close to as big as they get."

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Monday, November 4, 2002 9:24 PM
Besides, it is pretty safe to say if a park wanted a specially designed large-sized 4D, they would certainly do that for them. I doubt those are the only designs they are willing to build (and the larger two of those four designs aren't bad at all. I bet there are plenty of parks who would persue building one, provided they have been mechanically straightened out)
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Monday, November 4, 2002 9:43 PM
Now that Stan Checketts owns his very own 4th dimension design, I think ANY layout is possible :)
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Monday, November 4, 2002 9:56 PM

Be afraid, be VERY afraid...

Arrow +S&S= tons of modifications.

I'd want a FULL working model built and tested at the plant before I'd go anywhere near it.

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Monday, November 4, 2002 10:35 PM
Give me an air launched 4th d, with the absolutely insane restraints! (oh crap, I hope Stan doesn't read this... he'd be insane enough to try it ;) )
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Tuesday, November 5, 2002 2:07 AM

ThePhantomLives said:
Give me an air launched 4th d, with the absolutely insane restraints! (oh crap, I hope Stan doesn't read this... he'd be insane enough to try it )


Heck I'd ride it! I know a bunch of others would do. That'd be one hellofa sweet ride! I HOPE Stan read that. I'll be first in line!

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Tuesday, November 5, 2002 2:35 AM
Don't hold your breath...

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Tuesday, November 5, 2002 10:04 AM

I would expect they are smaller because how many parks are able to drop 25 mill on just one park inprovement.

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Tuesday, November 5, 2002 10:12 AM
Exactly what crash said...

With X costing something like $25million, what park can really afford an even larger version of that ride? Let alone the question of who really needs one.

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Tuesday, November 5, 2002 10:13 AM
These renderings look like they come from Hyperrails, nearly ;)

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Tuesday, November 5, 2002 10:44 AM
Well, now that X *HAS* been built, I'm gonna go on record and say that an exact duplicate of the ride would cost a LOT less than the original....the extra engineering costs in terms of the X-rails has been done, and the 4-d has proven AMAZINGLY successful with the GP...I would even hazard a guess that a smaller version (esp. one of the "pre-designed models" on Arrow's site) *could* be done without necessarily having to "break the bank"...;). Of course, then you have to get marketing to "sell" the ride that ISN'T an -EST ride....which must be harder than it seems....

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