Whats the deal with Togo

Monday, September 5, 2005 1:55 AM
I've only been on one Togo ride in my life, and it was The Viper when it used to be in operation at SF Gadv. My question is, are all Togo coasters as painful/crappy? That ride didn't have one element that i enjoyed save for the walk down the exit ramp. Maybe i'm in no position to judge, but i was just wondering if there are any togo coasters worth riding? Anyone? *** Edited 9/5/2005 5:56:29 AM UTC by XxStraylightXx***
Monday, September 5, 2005 2:09 AM
My girlfriend told me that she rode Manhattan Express in Las Vegas this weekend, and she said that it was also a rough ride...not quite as rough as Viper (the worst ride I've ever been on...worse than RT at SFGAdv)...but still very rough.

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Monday, September 5, 2005 2:13 AM
Lord Gonchar's avatar In general, people will say they all suck.

I didn't mind Viper, I kind of liked Manhattan Express, I didn't even think Shockwave (PKD) was too bad.

I was born with the rare 'Togo Tolerance Gene' (TTG) - it also helps with Arrow coasters, so that's a bonus.

It's currently estimated that 1 in every 15 million people are born with this gene.

(Yes, that means there's only about 20 of us in the USA - I just wonder how many are enthusiasts because it's otherwise generally useless. :) )

Monday, September 5, 2005 2:17 AM
I have that gene also.

My favorite standup is a Togo, and of the 2 I've been on, I like both of them more than most B&Ms. Manhattan Express isn't a terrible coaster. Is it rough? Yep. Mostly due to poor trains (and some bad transitions). Would I ride it again? Well, I wouldn't probably pay to ride it again, but if it were in a park, I wouldn't mind it.

Course, when I do go back to Vegas, I'll probably jump in line once more, just to remind myself. Hey, the twist and dive was almost worth the price.

Monday, September 5, 2005 2:29 AM
Shockwave at PKD is a Togo standup (is that the one you were referring to, Tek?)...Since I knew it was a Togo, I decided not to risk getting on it and trust the family jewels to a more reliable and comfortable name, B&M...so the first standup I go on will have to be a beemer!

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Monday, September 5, 2005 2:30 AM
nasai's avatar You need to get to Japan to ride a good Togo. They reside there....

Just stay away from Fujin Raijin II at Expoland. Viper ain't got nothing on FJII. ;)

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Monday, September 5, 2005 3:32 AM
Yeah, Jim, Shockwave is a Togo. I liked it. More than most beemers. However, my favorite standup, and the only one in America that matters, IMO, was King Cobra.

Course, next year, I'll get to experience Togos in their natural habitat if all goes well ;).

Monday, September 5, 2005 5:23 AM
I've been on 2, MH in LV and Windjammer at KBF while both beat some sense into you, I would still ride them both if one wasen't gone and the other way to expensive.

I do have an excuse though, I would still ride Flashback at SFMM if it were ever open, so I must be a little crazy.

Monday, September 5, 2005 8:51 AM
Although I realize it's not a "typical" Togo, I thoroughly enjoyed SFAW's Ultra Twister.

Schwarzkopf shuttle loops...The most possible fun in 36 seconds.

Monday, September 5, 2005 9:27 AM
coasterqueenTRN's avatar You guys can have them. After a very painful ride on Canada's Wonderland' s POS I am over them.

KC was awesome in it's youth, but it got pretty bumpy and ouchy in it's last years.


Monday, September 5, 2005 9:37 AM
So...if the TOGO's ride smooth in Japan...then the must be designed so that an earthquake actually improves the smoothness of the ride. Being that we don't have too many earthquakes in the US, then mother nature never smooths them out for us.

Following the same logic, KBF didn't have a strong enough earthquake to save WJ...but then they must not have wind in Japan either otherwise WJ wouldn't of had a single problem....

Please note the tone of sarcasm.....

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Monday, September 5, 2005 12:18 PM
I've been on 3 Togo coasters with mixed results.

Viper at SFgaDv had cool elements but obviously super painful. I remember going on this opening season, and it being sort of fun but still painful. I went again in summer of 2003 and it was like a punch in the face. I actually heard something in my neck pop at one point and that was disturbing. The pain of Viper has been kinda beaten to death here so guess 'nuff said on that.

Manhatten Express - Again cool ride but seems the pain factor for me sort of ruined it.

Sky Rider at PCW is my favourite stand-up. I like it better than the B&M and Intamin that I've been on. I'm 6'3 and seem to fit the ride perfectly. I've had a lot of pain in various parts of my body on other stand up, especially the Intamin ones. Super slow operations at this coaster at PCW can make what looks like an easy wait turn into 30 - an hour. I actually havn't even been on it this season yet due to excessive crowds at the park. Hoping things lighten up in the fall a bit and will ride then :-)

Monday, September 5, 2005 12:20 PM
The TTG gene is simply a mutation of the ATG (Arrow Tolerance Gene), one that is slightly more common, about 1 in 7.564 million Americans. Many of these cases are clustered around the Pittsburgh, Los Angelas, and southern New Jersey areas. An interesting lack of cases was noted near the Chicago area in previous years, but recent tests have become unavailable.

Research does show that these numbers are dwindling, perhaps due to the proliferation of fanny packs, mullets and gravy among those afflicted with the ATG ...

Brett, Resident Launch Whore Anti-Enthusiast (the undiplomatic one)
Monday, September 5, 2005 12:44 PM
^ I must suffer from the ATG syndrome then...on recent visits to said park in southern New Jersey and others in Virginia, I have had no issues whatsoever with riding coasters that some claim "clang n' bang", "creak and tweak", or "pinges n' binges"...for me they're just plain fun!

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Monday, September 5, 2005 1:17 PM
I must also have the TTG gene... I really enjoyed Manhattan Express and even rode it with their POP package 10 times in one day! It must also be common in Canada... all the people I know from Canada who rode Manhattan Express enjoyed it! *** Edited 9/5/2005 5:18:06 PM UTC by Absimilliard***
Monday, September 5, 2005 1:45 PM
i made myself "think" i liked manhattan express because I put down 11.50 to ride it...

... great ride!!!!!!! [shifty eyes]

-- alan "i will give that dive loop element-like thing credit, though" jacyszyn *** Edited 9/5/2005 5:46:22 PM UTC by SFDL_Dude***

Monday, September 5, 2005 3:04 PM
Ultra Twister still goes down as probably the scariest coaster I've been on. It's also a lot of fun. When the track raises up towards the steep lift hill, you're like "What the hell?". Nothing can prepare you for the first drop either.
Monday, September 5, 2005 3:56 PM
TTG,ATG and VCI (Vekoma Coma Immunity),I have them all, however they sometimes go into remission like the last time I rode Ninja at SFOG

I have never had a B&MBM (B&M Bowel Movement or getting the crap knocked out of yourself on a B&M)

Monday, September 5, 2005 4:06 PM

'Nuff said.

Monday, September 5, 2005 4:12 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar Heh. That Alvey video is the biggest overreaction to a coaster ever.

Good entertainment for the plebeians, but ridiculously overplayed.


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