magic mountain has never been one of my favorite parks. it will kill you with all the hills and the coasters, for the most part, are a bunch of dogs. (exception: ninja, colossus at times). revolution used to be good without the restaints and i'll tell you i haven't ridden it yet with them. i want to remember how good it used to be. riddler's revenge was so smooth i was bored with it. i would pick cedar point anytime over mm.