What do you want to see at Dorney next?

Monday, June 23, 2003 7:00 PM

SLFAKE said:
Okay... now maybe I am a bit slow and behind the times... but I hear a few people claiming a coaster addition to Hersheypark next year. Where does this info come from?

I will remind our home viewers of Jeff's classic quote "those who know don't tell." And to add to this, "sometimes you just have to trust us, because if we told where we heard it, that source will no longer be there."

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Monday, June 23, 2003 9:56 PM
The one and only time I was at Dorney (Aug.2002) I only noticed a lack of trees in the Front of the park. The Camp Snoopy area, and the back of the park near Thunderhawk and Steel Force are beautifully Landscaped, IMHO. I also support the opinion Thunderhawk should be left alone, and Hercules should be left trimless.
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Monday, June 23, 2003 10:09 PM
I'm not so sure that Cedar Fair plans business around park anniversaries. If it lands that way then great, but I immediately think back to 1995 and CP's 125th anniversary. They promoted the heck out of it, it was a big deal with banners and stuff around the park. I even have a "125 summers" cup floating around here somewhere.

Know what they got that year?

A Soak City expansion and the Summer Spectacular.

While the anniversary and a new ride happening together would be a nice opportunity, I don't think CF is aiming for it. In fact probably quite the opposite. Use the anniversary to promote 2004 and a new major addition shows up for 2005. We'll worry about 2006 later ;)

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:30 AM

Swoosh said:
I will remind our home viewers of Jeff's classic quote "those who know don't tell." And to add to this, "sometimes you just have to trust us, because if we told where we heard it, that source will no longer be there."

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Hey... not saying I believe it... I just wanted to hear where it came from. Personally... I'll believe it when I see it (or at least when there may be some sort of official announcement). Until then...

It is truely amazing how many people can see a few markings on the ground and automatically assume "NEW COASTER!!!!!!!"

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:34 AM
I want to see a 750' rocket with 8 miles of track, but that's not really going to happen.

I think it would be a smart move for the park to put in a smaller ride like an impulse (no launched coasters at Dorney) or maybe even a water coaster. Another smaller B&M would also probably do wonders, like B:DK. Of course, I have no real ideas about their budget or business plan, so...

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:11 AM
SLFAKE: I don't usually believe baseless rumors, but more than a few people are "talking" about a major coaster for Hershey in 2004, calling it the biggest investment in the park's history. I believe it because Hershey has been VERY consistent during the past decade with major new coasters every 2 years:

Wildcat (1996); Great Bear (1998); Lightning Racer (2000); Roller Soaker (2002)

Considering that pattern and the fact that the park seems to been in good financial health, I would be surprised if a new coaster didn't happen in 2004.

I'm as big a skeptic as you'll find, but this one I have a very good feeling about...

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-Rob
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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:19 AM
I am not saying "I don't believe a new coaster at Hershey in 2004" (like you said, I do see the 2 year pattern), but I am not holding my breath to the type. And if it is a Rocket... let it more closely resembel Xcelerator than TTD... I like the idea of a more interesting layout over the extra 200ft of height.

Back to Dorney though...

This thread has made me want to put a Dorney visit back on the schedule for this year... if only to ride the often maligned Hercules again.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:23 AM
Lord Gonchar said:
I'm not so sure that Cedar Fair plans business around park anniversaries.

Agreed. VF's 25th was marked with an ad campaign and lots of happy banners. Of course, they had just plunked $10 million on PT and kiddie rides the previous year--but that proves the point too, doesn't it?

-'Playa

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:37 AM
If a new coaster is going to Hershey, let me just state to no one in particular that I hope the Trailblazer stays. While certainly one of the shortest and somewhat uneventful coasters around, it was a childhood favorite. I'm probably one of about 6 people worldwide who would oppose it, but that's ok. I like to be different.

Maybe I should contact the CPO (formly CPC).

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:36 PM
SLFAKE:

To be honest, I don't want a rocket coaster at Hershey. For years, I had heard "rumors" of a B&M hyper, and that sounded a lot better than an Intamin design that has been proven to be quite unreliable. While Hershey has a fantastic coaster collection, they don't have a dedicated "airtime machine", and a hyper would fill that void nicely.

I am still keeping my fingers crossed for a B&M, but if it is an Intamin rocket, I'm with you in hoping for an Xcelerator-type ride instead of an up-and-down TTD-type affair.

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-Rob
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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:42 PM
Straying from Dorney here, but....

I'm with you on the Hyper idea. A northern version of Apollo's Chariot would suit me just fine. As far as "where would they put it... Hershey has a way of being very creative with layouts (such as Great Bear).

However, the layout of their last creation leaves me a bit flat. Hershey was I believe the second park to get a coaster like Roller Soaker (Carowinds being the first). The layout of Roller Soaker is very "ho-hum". From photographs, Carowinds Flying Super Saturator looks a little more interesting in terms of layout. Does anyone know how the layouts of the two compare?

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*** This post was edited by SLFAKE 6/24/2003 4:55:01 PM ***

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:59 PM
And now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the start of another post

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:01 PM
Having ridden both Roller Soaker and FSS I have to say they're about equally uninspired. However, I don't think the layout is what's imporant, the interaction is. Both are relatively slow and meandering and serve as little more than way for that interaction to take place. I did think Roller Soaker's overall area was set-up better for the ride and it seemed like a smoother (and a tad slower) ride than FSS.

Just my two cents.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:36 PM
How could you say that Thunderhawk needs to be removed? You're probrably some teenager who cares about nothing but yourself. Anyway, I think next year Dorney will definitely invest in an Intamin Rocket like XCelarator and it should be a longer layout than that design. I agree, a museum needs to be added, just like Knoebels. It's great to take a break from the thrills and look at some history. Hercules in my opinon was very smooth and fun when I rode it last Monday, but I agree, its track needs to be reworked next year. I sent letter to Dorney about it and they considered doing this. Dorney Park will always be my favorite, since it was my first park where I rode a coaster and where I had a great time. (GADV is great but the staff and how things work over there aren't)
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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:38 PM
What do I want to see at Dorney next? ME!

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:44 PM
I've ridden RS and FSS, and if you're park is fortunate enough to receive one of them, rejoice immediately....if you end up with the entire "RS package", as LG stated earlier and *in English*, then you are one LUCKY season passholder....Roller Soaker is the wettest coaster ride *ever*, and even gives Perilous Plunge a serious run for the money, er, water. And even though it isn't a "thrill ride", anyone riding in those restraints can't tell me it isn't at least a little *exciting*. That's a ride any SERIOUS "separately- gated" waterpark might want to consider....it's that good. Even though I rode FSS with the water OFF, it was easy to tell the difference.....riders *interacting* with those on the ground and in line, that was the HUGE difference between the two....I wish the Con-Quest-A-Dorks had gotten a ride on it like the one I had previously....oh well, at least they got WET on the ride (and that day, and every other day)....perhaps it WOULD have been best to ride it dry like FSS after all....;)

Back to Dorney specifically, in terms of a new ride, a WT/V2 type ride might be nice, but any time a CF park comes up, I'm *always* pulling for the underdog and hoping somehow that TaMpIcO TuMbLeR will be resurrected (or a new one purchased)....STILL the best flat ever....a Top Scan sounds delicious, the Huss and Zamperla lines have nice flats, but as a *coaster* enthusiast I'd be remiss if I failed to mention that "I still love those Arrow mine trains"....(every park needs one, mOOSH)...;)

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Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:18 AM
Okay... Back to Dorney...

I truely don't think that any of the coasters should be removed. However, IF one does, in my opinion I can think of two better candidates than Hercules. Their Wild Mouse was very lack luster with its heavy breaking. It only gained a few points after I rode PKD's Richocet... talk about SLOW. But... Wild Mouse is relatively new. The other would be Laser. I know, I know... I am in the minority with that. Howerver, it would be nominated by default.

Like I said, I don't think any need to be removed. I do like the idea of an Mine Train. If room would permit, place it on the hill near the flume and Hercules, perhaps intertwining both of them. I think that would be a great location.

I do remember my trip to Dorney in 1980 and their only dark ride at that time, the Bucket of Blood (pirate themed dark ride). I think this wsa later destroyed by fire. What ever its demise, I'd like to see a dark ride of some sort... not necessiarly one of the high tech type... just the good old fashioned "haunted house, scary" type of dark ride. Okay, I know this is NOT going to happen, just thinking out loud.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:12 AM
You mean something like a Sally dark ride? I didn't even think of that... that would make an excellent non-coaster addition to the park! Actually, it would make a good addition to about a dozen parks I can name without thinking...

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-Rob
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Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:50 AM
Well, I never encountered a Sally Dark Ride except for Den of Lost Thieves on the Wildwood Boardwalk (I think that is Sally). That is more on the cartoonish, "freindly" side. Something a little more scary... at least darker.

I can think specifically of two parks that I would like to see get a dark ride of some sort, both of which have been heavily discussed in this thread. Dorney to replace the old Bucket of Blud, and Hershey who's last dark ride (Gold Nugget?) disappeared sometime in the 1970's. (What better addition to Midway America... themed like an old time amusment park, than a good old fashioned dark ride?)

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Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:07 AM
Sally rides are kind of cartoonish, but that would actually work quite well in Hershey, which clearly caters to families above all else. Dorney could benefit from a "darker" ride, but that would require a custom installation, and most parks don't seem too keen on designing dark rides from scratch anymore. Too bad...

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-Rob
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