I was always led to believe Batman had the biggest loop. Guess I was wrong.
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Everyone always says Walter said 160' at SFFT opening day. But I just can't put much faith in that. I mean, how can he rememeber every stat of every element on a coaster his company designs? Is he even in that "section" of his company (or does he deal with structure, etc)?
There are just so many factors surrounding this ride that I don't know which to believe. Some say the lift is 168', others say that's the drop, and it's really 175'. SF also says it reaches speeds of 70mph, and that's physically impossible, even if the drop was 175' (taking account friction, etc).
I'm not saying it's not a big loop. In fact, I'm sure it's the tallest. I just can't see it being 160' tall though.
Oh, and I finally get to ride it May 26 and 27! Woohoo! Easily my most anticipated coaster of my TX trip.
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I would think Walter Bolliger would know if his company built the worlds tallest loop.....
Joe E. said:
"Millennium Force has the Biggest Loop at 169 feet ;).
Does anyone know the Loop which has the biggest radius ? I think whatever one that is has the right to be called the biggest loop
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Don't bring the MF inversion thing up again.
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Legendary said:
"I mean, how can he rememeber every stat of every element on a coaster his company designs?"
Hey!
We do! ;)
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http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com
Sometimes I get the impression people post without reading any of the topic.
First of all, Legendary, Walter Bolliger doesnt even work with the actual ride designing. He manages the deals themselves and contacts the parks. Claude Mabillard, on the other hand, does. He's also the person who actually said 160 feet at opening day, not Walter.
Second of all, and let me say that this is final, The LIFT is 175 feet, and the DROP is 168 feet. There is also a section following the lift, before the drop into the pit, where the train spirals downward picking up some speed. Physically impossible? I remember some post a while back where somebody's "physics" showed that Shivering Timbers could not clear the 2nd or 3rd hills.
I can't wait till somebody shows me an email from B&M saying "we were wrong" or something, so I can be humiliated, but until then, I'm standing by what reliable sources have said. Boy it's really starting to feel like the off-season! Time for some ice cream..
Millennium Force said:
"First of all, Legendary, Walter Bolliger doesnt even work with the actual ride designing. He manages the deals themselves and contacts the parks. Claude Mabillard, on the other hand, does. He's also the person who actually said 160 feet at opening day, not Walter."
The reason I said Walter was because Brandon said that. I guess he's the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. Either way, there are just too many myteries about the stats of the ride. Besides, Claude is from Switzerland, why on Earth would he say 160 *feet*? :) What happened to the metric in his blood?
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Batman Knight Flight has the worlds tallest loop and is the worlds longest floorless rollercoaster, at least that is whats said as you enter the ride.
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I think Cluade may be getting his metric to english conversions wrong. A coaster with only a 168 foot drop would have trouble making it over a 160 foot second hill, let alone a vertical loop. Magnum has a 195 foot drop and has rolled back on a shorter hill then that. (I mean the second hill is shorter than 187 feet)
RCDB states that the loop is only 114 feet tall. Not sure if its right, but that height would make a lot more sense.
*** This post was edited by Joe E. on 3/2/2001. ***
Where do people get this nonsense from? You CANNOT get a 160ft loop from a 168ft drop, period. Not unless you want to risk the train valleying.
SKC: 136ft loop
Medusa West: 124ft loop
Riddler's Revenge: 122ft loop
Believe it or not, but that's the truth. SKC's loop doesn't even look anywhere near 160ft. I rode it all last summer.
I have ridden all of the loops and just look at pictures of all the rollercoasters and compare.
The World's Biggest Loop belongs to Superman: KC at what I would say 150 feet. To me, if it's 175 feet high, the drop would be 168 going into a 150 foot vertical loop. It just makes sense and physics would probably prove it.
2nd Place would be Batman Knight Flight. I believe it is 160 or so high, and the loop would be at 138 or 136 (I heard both). Either way, it would hold the height to loop about the same as Superman:KC -- with the loop being around 25 feet less than the height.
Medusa West, Dragon Kahn (in Spain) would be 3,4 at 124 and 123. Yes, I rode Dragon Kahn.
5 = Riddler's Revenge at 122
6 = I think Chang would maybe be here at 121
7 = Mantis at 120
8 = Son of Beast at 118?
Viper at SF MM is the Highest Vertical Loop at 144 feet but the loop does not go from almost ground zero, up to the specified height, and back down to almost ground zero like all the previous ones.
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Superman Krypton Coaster is 168' tall, hits 70 mph
Batman Knight Flight is 161' tall, hits 65 mph
Superman has a bigger loop, more than 114', probably less than 160'. It's also a much more fun ride than Batman Knight Flight, with that dive off the cliff and the zero-g roll.
The loop is enormous, really. Here's some pictures:
http://www.coasterphotos.com/SFFT/superman.htm http://www.sixflagshouston.com/fiesta.html *** This post was edited by Fierce Pancake on 3/2/2001. ***
*** This post was edited by Fierce Pancake on 3/2/2001. ***
Cool pics Pancake! Funny comment on the pic of you stuck in the midcourse.
Most sources put SKC at 175' tall with a 168' drop. These pics show the loop to be nearly as tall as the drop, therefore the loop is approximately 150'.
Anyone know the length of the train which could be used as a reference of size?? And has anyone got a pic of the drop & loop from cliff or seen for themselves how tall the loop is compared to the drop? That is, on a perfectly horizontal plane! ;) It won't do if you're intoxicated! :)
Also you can't get a 160' loop out of 168' drop, too risky. However, is it 168' from the very top of the lift hill to the very bottom of the drop?? This is most likely true as the height is 175'! The drop height doesn't include the trademark dip which adds significantly to the speed & momentum. Therefore a 160' loop is possible. This backs up Walter's claim of 160'. IMO it'd be ridiculous if he didn't know exactly!!!
160' would make SKC's loop the biggest & tallest loop AND inversion in the world! Most sources point to Volcano's first inversion at 155', RRV's loop at 124' and Viper's at 144'.
Oh for cryin' out loud, someone with surveying equipment go and measure the darn thing! Or hold the park manager as a hostage 'till he tells the truth on a polygraph! :) Best case; anyone got the phone number for B&M? That's a joke.
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If the drop is measured from after the dip then I suppose it could make it through the loop. Still If the drop is only 168 with the dip included, I think that dip would do nothing to help it get through. If anything the added friction would slow it down. It still falling 168 feet and nothing can speed it up except some kind of boost.
Still I think the 138 or the 150s I heard tossed around seems like the most reasonable number. RCDB's claim of 114 sounds like the Radius
Maybe there adding the height of Superman who sits on top of the loop?
On the page that Pancake had it said the loop was 145ft. All this confusion over a forum question!
It makes for a good debate! :)
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