Weird track?

Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:38 PM
Here is a coaster named Quantum Loop. I have been on it many times but something I just noticed last visit was its strange track. Its like intamin's but the wheels are on the inside of the tracks. I also know its about a French manufactuar called soquet do you know anything about soquet? Any other tracks that are "strange"? here is the link

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:45 PM
Actually A LOT of tracks have wheels on the inside, many woodies, SFMM 's(Viper, Ninja, Goldrusher, Deja Vu, the top rails on X), and most arrows, if not all, have wheels on the inside, so it is not all uncommon to see that

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:49 PM
The wheels that are on the inside are 'guide wheels' which prevent the train from sliding of the track along turns, usually The guide wheels are on the inside of woodies, and the outside of steel coasters.
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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:51 PM
FoF...look at most (if not all) of the arrow mega loopers...they have their wheels between the rails, not on the outside...

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:59 PM
I relize that "redman822" thats why i said usually, it was already stated in an earlier post about arrow loopers, guide wheel positions.
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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:03 PM
It depends on the Coaster manufacture on where the cross-ties that connect the rails together are, if they are connected on the inside then obviously the guide wheels will be outside, and if the connect on the outside of the rails then the guide wheels will be on the inside, i t doesnt make a matter if the guide wheels are on the inside or not, they all do the same job.

*** This post was edited by FoF on 5/14/2002. ***

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:03 PM
I KNOW that arrows and many others have guide wheels inside! I was just saying it was strange to see that type of track, which looks like intamin track, having inside guide wheels. It just looks weird

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:06 PM
FoF guide wheels can be on the outside as well, All b&m are

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:26 PM

CRVeck said:
FoF guide wheels can be on the outside as well, All b&m are

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I know guide wheels can be on the inside read my earlier post, it depends on where the cross ties connect to the running rails.

*** This post was edited by FoF on 5/14/2002. ***

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:37 PM
The vast majority of coasters have the guide wheels on the Inside.Vekoma, Arrow, All woodies, etc etc.

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:25 PM

What FoF said should clear up the guide wheel thing! Why is it being dragged out? If the ties are on the inside, wheels are on the outside. If the ties are on the outside, wheels on the inside. A few cases exist where there are no guide wheels, such as SFGAm's Whizzer. The wheels on those are grooved, though.

Anyways, whats so weird about the track? To me, it looks like Arrow track as seen on the top of mega-looper loops. http://rcdb.com/installationgallery34.htm?Picture=5

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:47 PM
It probably seems strange becuase you haven't seen coasters by Soquet as much and their track can seem different. I actually love some Soquet's coasters like Iron Wolf, Mantana Rusa, and the multiple shuttle loops they did with Meisho. What's also cool, is how they make their looper trains half forward and half backwards.

*** This post was edited by Vertigo on 5/14/2002. ***

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:49 PM

what he is saying is it looks like intamin box track, but it is wierd to see the guide wheels on the inside of the track instead of outside, and the track compares to nothing on an Arrow MegaLooper!

Jeeze, why can't anyone understand that!!

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:55 PM

Rctycoon2k said:

what he is saying is it looks like intamin box track, but it is wierd to see the guide wheels on the inside of the track instead of outside, and the track compares to nothing on an Arrow MegaLooper!

Jeeze, why can't anyone understand that!!



Finally someone who is smart enough to understand me!

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:09 PM
friction anyone???
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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:12 PM

Ahh that clears up a lot

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002 8:02 PM

after looking at the pic it does look wierd, kinda like being in a flume through the coaster

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Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:57 AM

Just to stir the stew a little, here's a coaster from the same maufacturer with the guide wheels on the outside.

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Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:29 AM

millrace, that is WEIRD. Looking carefully at the last car in the train, I noticed that it seemed to be leaning strangely....then the surprise: the last car has seats turned BACKWARDS in the next-to-last row. After the demise of Joker's Revenge, I've become more interested in riding non-shuttles facing backwards.....looks like I gotta skip the pond to get to that one, though....

...and now, back to the discussion of guide wheels....

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Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:00 AM

FoF said:
it doesnt make a matter if the guide wheels are on the inside or not, they all do the same job.


While it is obviously true that inside or outside wheels both do the same job, I believe that there IS a difference.

An Arrow train really rides low, between the rails; while (say) a B&M train rides above. If something disastrous were to happen, say a wheel assembly or axle falling off, then the Arrow car will likely be ok as the rails will continue to guide it on a relatively safe path. However, if the same thing were to happen to a B&M train (or Schwartzkopf), then the car will be flung about causing much more damage (to property and people). I am of the firm belief that the disaster which happened to the Mindbender would have been far less catastrophic if the train ran between the rails like an Arrow. Now look at all the similar Arrow accidents (Demon and Orient Express), very little damage. Obviously there is no proof of this, but it's my theory and I'm going to stick to it! :-)

Now, on the other hand, I bet the B&M (and Intamin and Schwartzkopf) track is probably easier and quicker to fabricate due to the simpler track-ties.

Cam.


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