We have naother Ed markey

Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:14 AM

Read this

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/06/19/national/main512803.shtml

She cant even spell Xcelerator right.

Sorry about the Spelling in the title.

*** This post was edited by B&M ROCKS on 6/20/2002. ***

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:41 AM
This is exactly the type of journalism that will scare the hell out of people and bolster Markey's case. Did you notice what the attorney with the Goliath death case did? He compared the supposed brain injuries sustained on roller coasters with those sustained in a shaken baby? That's just the type of language needed to enflame the uneducated. It's also obvious that the author did not have any type of press release from Knott's. I would guess she never even tried to contact the park.

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:45 AM
People are so dumb nowadays, the woman already had a brain anyuerism or some sort of Brain problem. I just hope they don't regulate coasters.

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:45 AM

"I believe the forces exerted on her body, the lateral forces, caused it to burst," said family spokesman Javier Santos. "That's my personal opinion."

Since when does Goliath have *any* sory of lateral G's? Or am I missing something here?

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:13 AM

That's exactly the point I was going to make.

I didn't post this one as news because it's the same old tired nonsense. Can't believe CBS had that slow of a news day.

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:21 AM

It's just another blatant example of sensationalism. They quote family members and the families lawyers. Those people all blame the ride. WELL DUH?!?! What did they expect them to say? Those people are looking to replace a loved one with a bucket-load of cash. Of course they are going to say that...the relatives of loved ones always look for someone to blame. In this case where there really isn't anyone at fault, they blame the ride (Did it really take the genius reporters of CBS to tell the general public that this is what the family thought?) They talk about Mr. Markey's 50 examples, but neglect to mention how many coaster rides are given every day, every year, every decade (the decade number would be a little more appropriate considering that was the approx. lenght of time that Mr. Markey's examples range). They said that the number of injuries is increasing each year...well so is the number of rides given.

I know that I am preaching to the choir here, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I e-mailed CBS News and informed them of many of the things mentioned above (including how stupid they were for not even spelling the name of the ride correctly..LOL). They probably won't respond or do anything about it, but it makes me feel a little (and I emphasize "little") better.

Happy Coastering!

Sean

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:29 AM

If you watch the video of this woman's news report there's some very nice footage of Xcelerator's launch and first element...this coaster looks great.

As far as her report goes- why should parks be made responsible for a guest's pre-existing condition, even if it is unkown?

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:53 AM

"You at least have to tell the public that there is an inherent risk that you could suffer a serious injury, even death, by going on the attraction." Barry Novak Coaster Victim's Attorney

Well if thats the case then, cars, baseball bats, toothpicks, hammers, screws, etc should all have a warning label slapped on them. Also, roads should have signs saying there is a risk of you getting injuried or dying from driving on it.

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 11:22 AM

"Santos died of a brain aneurysm she didn't know she had."

"That's my personal opinion."

"...similar to what happens in shaken baby syndrome."



The first statement is the best one in the whole article. While technically incorrect (it is only an aneurysm when it "pops") it at least states that she had an underlying medical condition prior to riding.

2nd statement, umm...excuse me? Is he a doctor? Did he realize that a hard sneeze could have caused it to burst too?

The comparison to shaken baby syndrome is also laughable since SBS is fatal in children because they do not have the skeletal/musculature structure of adults. Now granted, I am not a doctor, so I can not come up with firm data to validate that statement, but simple logic makes it clear...

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Posting, "Me too" like some brain dead AOLer. I ought to to the world a favor, and cap you like old yeller...

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 11:36 AM
That is bullcrap and I hate to see bad press. To us, we can see all the errors and laugh at it, but the average person will believe it. Goliath- possitive Gs / Psyco Mouse- lateral Gs. There is a big difference.

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 12:26 PM

I like this one:

"Theme parks are constantly in search of coasters that accelerate at break-neck speeds"...

um..excuse me *itch but show me ONE case where a passenger has broke their neck while riding a roller coaster.

Get a life!

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 12:58 PM
Actually, an aneurysm is a weak spot in a vessel, and if care isn't soon taken it will burst. These run in my family and I've had my fair share of tests and various other things performed on me to make sure I don't have the Marfan (I think I just butchered that) Syndrome. I may have to leave something in my will stating that if I pass doing what I love to do that isn't proved dangerous, and had a pre-existing condition that I didn't know about, don't sue them... Take it as a lesson learned to go to the doctor more often, espically when you have a headache!

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 12:59 PM
CoasterMom...

I hate to say this, but I'll be happy to show you not one case, but two...

http://www.saferparks.org/database/AR_details.asp?ID=904302

http://www.saferparks.org/database/AR_details.asp?ID=904303

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 2:42 PM

Ouch, SoB really must have been rough then, but i heard it's smoother now.

About the article i wonder how much time she worked with it. Not so much it seems from all those errors.

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 3:56 PM

But, Rideman, if you look at the second of the two cases, you will see that ...


Patron's neck broke from forces of ride. Patron suffers from Ankylosingsponditis, a form of arthritis of the spine.


And further down,


Both injured parties had the same pre-existing condition


Referring to both of your cases you have linked (both were injured within four weeks on SofB

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Posting, "Me too" like some brain dead AOLer. I ought to to the world a favor, and cap you like old yeller...

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 4:15 PM
Yesterday when I was on Roar I heard someone yelling so I turned to look and then we hit a bump at the bottom of the second drop. I thought my neck had broken from the force of the bump. I was really scared and now I have a little fear of rough rides even though it was my fault I got hurt. Today, I only have minor neck pain.

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 5:31 PM
This is NOT news, IMO. If you check all of Ed Markey and other coaster haters' reports, they repeat, repeat, repeat. It gets kinda boring reading the same thing over and over. Really, you'd kill 3 trees if you printed out all the junk that's repeated in these reports. Stop Ed Markey, SAVE THE TREES! :~D

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 5:36 PM

CoasterMom said:

I like this one:

"Theme parks are constantly in search of coasters that accelerate at break-neck speeds"...

um..excuse me *itch but show me ONE case where a passenger has broke their neck while riding a roller coaster.

Get a life!



I"ll also chime in here: IT'S AN EXPRESSION!!!! Duuuuuh.

But, look at the original looping coasters. FlipFlap Railway on Coney Island always snapped people's necks because it did not have an Elliptical curve.

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 5:48 PM
I replyed in there feedback, maybe if enough of us give them feedback they will print a retraction or something.

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Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:39 PM
Redman822, I am well aware of the probably mitigating circumstances in the two cases I cited. Point is, someone posted the question of whether there was a documented case of a coaster rider getting his neck broke; I merely pointed out that such a case does, in fact, exist. I also have a pet theory that the major change the park made to the train for 2002 would probably have prevented both injuries had it been in place last season.

The thing we have to remember as we defend our favorite pastime is that while amusement rides have an awesome safety record, that does not change the fact that once in a while, people do in fact get hurt. And in a nontrivial number of cases, people get hurt because of factors unrelated to rider misbehavior. It does not help our cause to ignore or belittle those who are injured on rides. It's far more important to make sure that the conditions that allowed those injuries to occur are fixed.
After all, this is how amusement rides got an outstanding safety record to begin with, not from pretending that incidents don't happen or assuming that they are all either inevitable or freaky.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
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