Was SFGAdv being un-Six Flags-like?

Naming a ride after a superhero automatically reduces its perceived value.

Although Nitro sounds a little too much like that wrestling stuff. . .

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millrace said:
Naming a ride after a superhero automatically reduces its perceived value.


Huh?

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How does naming a ride after a superhero reduce the perceived value? It's still the same ride.

Personally I think Six Flags has been missing out NOT going with a red and yellow color scheme on their hypers and theming them after The Flash...

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I've often wondered why the Vekoma SLC's all over dont have superhero names.

*** This post was edited by Steve White on 3/28/2002. ***


GregLeg said:
"How does naming a ride after a superhero reduce the perceived value?"

It's like what my boss says about students who where baseball caps in class.

"A baseball cap reduces your perceived I.Q by 30 pts."

It's crazy sure, but It's hard for me to get interested in a ride named after a superhero. Batman would be much more enjoyable for me without the Batman theming. I do not, in any way, feel like I am fighting evil and escaping danger (or whatever it is that Batman does).

Why not name it "expired milk" and construct a theme where the riders are trying to escape smelly milk curds?
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I personally hate the way they name rides after superheroes. Leave the superheroes in the comics, and come up with a decent name for a ride. Nitro and Raging Bull are awesome names for coasters. SF just needs more creativity.

Oh, so reduces the rides percieved value....for you. Not the park, not enthusiasts in general, and not for the average park goer.

If you like a coaster less because of its name, then if you ask me you are riding coasters for the wrong reasons. If its a high quality ride, as most of the superhero coasters are, why care? It just seems like one more thing for people to complain about in a never ending list of things for people to complain about. Why not do everything you can to have the most fun on a coaster as possible, instead of intellecutalizing the park's name choice? I ride coasters to have fun, personally.

And if "expired milk" was a good ride then I would have fun riding it, too.

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Steve White said:
SF just needs more creativity.


Show me where SF's lack of "creativity" translates into lower profits, or lower attendance at the gates. Until then, I'm going to have a hard time agreeing with you.

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I don't think it's their creativity that gets them the people. Sure, the cartoon and comic characters attract people, but I think the coasters are what attract a lot of the people. I would ride Superman Ride of steel if it was all white and pink and had no name just the same as I would as it is now.
The GP loves saying they rode batman or superman to others. These ride names are part of what SF parks are known for along with looney tunes. Remember there are way more guests in the GP than enthusiasts. The GP also only visits one or maybe two sixflags park if that in their lifetime. IMO Superman and Batman rides are a great marketing technique and are only over-used to enthusiasts.

LTLWcbYbe, I agree 100% with you. I never even thought of it that way...

Didn't Nitros control panel actually have Superman on it? I remember reading that before it opened. Maybe it still does.

Here's what I do know. SF doesn't have carte blanche to name rides after DC Comics characters. SF has to get DC Comics approval for each ride that they name after their characters. DC looks carefully at both the ride and the themeing details.

Here's what I don't know. I don't know if there is a separate lisencing fee for each ride. I don't know what DC is specifically looking for in the ride and themeing. I don't know any specifics about Nitro's naming.

Based on this I wouldn't be surprised to find that SF and DC couldn't agree on this ride. It could be that there wasn't enough room for themeing since as I recall Nitro has very little area fronting the midway. Of course this paragraph is all speculation.

Steve White said:
I've often wondered why the Vekoma SLC's all over dont have superhero names.

I think it is because many or most of them were installed before the transformation. At least ME @ SFNE was...

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jay_rider said:
How come some people complain about six flags being un-origional and they have the same names at every park, now a six flags park did something rare and original by naming a hyper a name besides Superman but now people are complaining about Great adventures being un-six flags like. Your sayin if they named in S:ros it would be better but I bet if they named it that you will go say why they named it after S:ros at New England.

I think you didn't read my post close enough. I wasn't complaining at all, I was just curious why they didn't name it a Superman name. It just seems un-Six Flags-like; just like the title says. So don't get your panties in a twist when somebody is asking a simple question like why they chose to stay away from the Superman name.

Oh yeah, and from all this speculation I'm gonna go with a guess that they will be installing a B&M Flyer @ SFGAdv. S:UF will most likely become the new name for the B&M Flyers just like S:RoS is the name for Intamin Hypercoasters at most parks.

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I'd agree that the next flyers will be called S:UF, and plus, I'm still going back to my original theory. The only hypers they have that aren't named S:ROS aren't Intamins. I still say it goes by the type of coaster (2 across, 4 across)

so, by Steve's theory, 4 abreast gets Bats while 2 abreast gets Clark. well its a nice theory and all, but Batman:The Ride @ SFM is a Vekoma SLC so that doesn't exactly work out.

perhaps SF themes the coasters however they feel and we try to dig up a pattern and make it true to allow us to hope for a coaster that we may or may not get depending on what coaster was themed to what by SF.

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*** This post was edited by coasterjedi on 3/28/2002. ***


coasterjedi said:


so, by Steve's theory, 4 abreast gets Bats while 2 abreast gets Clark. well its a nice theory and all, but Batman:The Ride @ SFM is a Vekoma SLC so that doesn't exactly work out. -----------------


Ok. So maybe they got mixed up with all of their clones!


Uh guys what about Goliath and Titan? They are TWO across hypers with original names. So the whole 2 across 4 across thing doesn't cut it. The only hypers named after superheroes are the Intamins, except for Goliath at SFH which isn't really a hyper anyway.

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So wait, you guy's complain when Six Flags isn't original with the names of rides. And you also complain when they are original. Personally, the ride's name doesnt make it a good or bad ride. Just ride the darn ride.

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