Waldameer - 6/21/08

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Monday, June 23, 2008 11:17 AM
Paratroopers are quite common in western PA. Besides Waldameer and Kennywood, I remember Idlewild and DelGrossos having them. There was also one at Conneaut Lake before it closed.

Arthur Bahl

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Monday, June 23, 2008 11:43 AM
Aww...no wacky shack! I freakin' love that ride, but I'm a newbie when it comes to dark rides...Knoebel's Haunted Mansion definitely blew the Shack out of the water.
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Monday, June 23, 2008 12:54 PM
I still want to go to Waldameer this year but those @*#% gas prices are giving me second thoughts. One reason that I am interested in Whacky Shack is because it was designed by the same people that did the old West View haunted House (later the Erieview Fright Zone). Of course RF2 is the main reason for going and the reason I decided to wait last year. I also don't intend to miss the Ferris Wheel and X-Scream with their beautiful views of Presque Isle and Lake Erie.

Arthur Bahl

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Monday, June 23, 2008 1:12 PM
Jeff's avatar It cost me $26 round-trip in gas from the southwest side of Cleveland. Meh. No biggie I guess.

Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog - Music: The Modern Gen-X - Video

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Monday, June 23, 2008 1:30 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar Yeah, but the news tells us gas prices are scary and affects what we do, Jeff. Don't you listen to the media? You can't afford to take a trip - the TV and the internets said so!
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Monday, June 23, 2008 1:54 PM
You do realize that you're essentially making fun of those who actually are affected by the rising cost of gas, right?
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Monday, June 23, 2008 2:32 PM
kpjb's avatar No, he's essentially making fun of alarmists and over-reactors.

If it cost Jeff $26 @ $4 per gallon, then it would have cost him $9.75 @ $1.50 per gallon. If $16 will make or break your vacation, you shouldn't be going.


Hi

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Monday, June 23, 2008 2:37 PM

eightdotthree said:
That's what was to be confused. I had no idea about the regulation. Odd that a state with such a strict liquor control board would allow it.


That's because PA liquor (er wine and spirits) store employee = unionized state employee. Tattoo parlors = no union, no state benefits.

I did hear of someone getting hep and the likely cause (all the other potential causes were eliminated) was a contaminated tattoo needle. Makes you want to run out and get one don't it?

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Monday, June 23, 2008 2:38 PM
The effects of increased fuel costs do not end at the pump.
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Monday, June 23, 2008 2:54 PM
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Lord Gonchar said:
Yeah, but the news tells us gas prices are scary and affects what we do, Jeff. Don't you listen to the media? You can't afford to take a trip - the TV and the internets said so!

Oh sure Gonch takes a shot at the media and gets a free pass! ;)

Gas cost me $25 round-trip in my little ghey Civic this year and probably would have cost me $18 last year. If $7 is really going to keep me away from doing that then I need to either 1. Stop listening to the media or 2. Get a hobby that requires me at home.

~Rob Willi

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Monday, June 23, 2008 3:21 PM
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djDaemon said:
You do realize that you're essentially making fun of those who actually are affected by the rising cost of gas, right?

Ya think? That'd be a pretty dicky thing to do.

Nah. These guys got it. The hysteria around it all is silly. $4 on the gas pump is scary, but once you do the math it's not so bad. Certainly not enough to be a vacation breaker and if it is, you were probably living too close to the edge to begin with.

I'd say the people it's hurting the most are the ones who weren't able to visit parks (or take vacations) in the first place.


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Monday, June 23, 2008 3:24 PM
Jeff's avatar You just listen to the wrong media, Rob.

All of the piercing shops I've been to here around Cleveland are also tattoo shops, and they're all as clean as hospitals. You'd think that it's pretty common sense that if you don't see needles come out of sterilized packaging and accessories come out of an autoclave that something ain't right.


Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog - Music: The Modern Gen-X - Video

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Monday, June 23, 2008 3:26 PM
rollergator's avatar ^Common sense? Not necessarily if you live in meth-lab central...just sayin'.
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Monday, June 23, 2008 3:47 PM
Jeff's avatar Hahahaha. Nice. You know, it's funny, I just the other day got an IM from the girl I dated briefly around there and I told her how people were giving me crap about that. As she put it, "Have them shadow me in my job for a day and count the times I run into meth'd up kids and, worse, parents."

Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog - Music: The Modern Gen-X - Video

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Monday, June 23, 2008 3:49 PM

Lord Gonchar said:
Ya think? That'd be a pretty dicky thing to do.

No, I assumed you meant no ill will, and that you were merely going with the whole "hysteria" thing, but that's still sorta BS.


$4 on the gas pump is scary, but once you do the math it's not so bad.

I hate this "logic". In 3 years, gas prices have doubled. With that, every thing that gets touched by gas prices (see also: everything) rises in concert with that. But next year, people will still use that same argument and say "gas prices have only gone up one dollar to 5 bucks a gallon, so its no big deal".

My main beef is with this whole "you weren't supposed to be taking vacations" nonsense. You're suggesting there are people either wealthy enough that they see adverse impact on their budget, or people who were always too poor to go in the first place. And thus, an insignificant number in the middle. That's absurd, to put it lightly.

But whatever - its been argued on and on before, and I don't wanna start the whole debate over again. I just get sick of silly assumptions. :)

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Monday, June 23, 2008 4:08 PM
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djDaemon said:
My main beef is with this whole "you weren't supposed to be taking vacations" nonsense. You're suggesting there are people either wealthy enough that they see adverse impact on their budget, or people who were always too poor to go in the first place. And thus, an insignificant number in the middle. That's absurd, to put it lightly.

That makes sense on the surface, but I do believe that's it's not that large of a number that we're talking about.

The amount that life costs goes up. I don't believe that on a year-to-year basis that it has gone up enough to affect many people beyond those that were 'living on the edge' to begin with - and as I said, I do believe that number isn't as large as it may seem.

Sure, you can argue beyond year-to-year numbers but where does it stop?

25,000 years ago Caveman Ugg got to roll down the hill for three shiny rocks and an elk tooth. Compared to that, it's amazing that anyone can afford anything anymore. ;)

And on a more serious note, I think we use year-to-year comparisons because that's exactly what the media does.

So yeah, I fully believe that if you were visiting an amusement park (or parks) last year and can't this year, that you've either gotten caught up in the hysteria or you probably shouldn't have been going last year because you were cutting it awfully close. I do think that middle number, on a year-to-year basis, is much smaller than one would think.

*** Edited 6/23/2008 8:50:41 PM UTC by Lord Gonchar***


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Monday, June 23, 2008 4:59 PM
The reason for the overload of bad tattoos in Erie is due to the overload of bad "artists" in Erie. There's 3 in my town alone, and I don't live in a major city. I'd also never get another tattoo from any of them, as the last one scarred me so bad that I'm embarrassed to admit that I got it done willingly. My artist is from Ohio, trained in Ohio (you need like 3 years or so of training, someone correct me if I'm wrong), licensed in Ohio, and registered with the board of health. All of that is NOT required in the state of Pennsylvania, and it sucks.
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Monday, June 23, 2008 5:15 PM
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Lord Gonchar said:
I don't believe that on a year-to-year basis that it has gone up enough to affect many people beyond those that were 'living on the edge' to begin with - and as I said, I do believe that number isn't as large as it may seem.

The problem is our entire economy and quality of living standards have been based on those people who shouldn't be going to their local amusement park (or buying a computer, or an Ipod, or a new house, or a SUV, or whatever) but are (were) still doing it. Like it or not a lot of American business was based on people playing who couldn't really afford it, but could still get into the game with easy credit. For a lot of people those days are coming to an end but gas prices are just one bit of the puzzle.

What really needed to happen was a federal tax on gas in the $2/gallon range back a few years ago. We've seen that $4 a gallon for gas is where people start to pull their gas guzzling tanks off the road and start conserving energy (somewhat) and instead of pissing away all of our gas money to build new theme parks in Dubai we could have been reinvesting the tax dollars here at home. But then again with the current state of things that's all pie-in-the-sky idealism at it's most wide-eyed and crazy.

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Monday, June 23, 2008 5:16 PM
Gas prices? Meh... I just returned from Europe where I took a road trip from Paris to Germany and back... With a small VW Polo, it still cost us almost 300 euros (almost 500$!) in gas and tolls for a 1000 miles journey. So, I don't complain anymore, even when gas here in Montreal comes up to almost 6$ a gallon. *** Edited 6/23/2008 9:17:19 PM UTC by Absimilliard***
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Monday, June 23, 2008 11:12 PM
A little off topic but I just noticed that Waldameer has their own blog now too.

http://www.waldameer.blogspot.com/

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