Waldameer - 6/21/08
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Waldameer Park, Erie, Pennsylvania, USA
Arthur Bahl
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Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog
If it cost Jeff $26 @ $4 per gallon, then it would have cost him $9.75 @ $1.50 per gallon. If $16 will make or break your vacation, you shouldn't be going.
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eightdotthree said:
That's what was to be confused. I had no idea about the regulation. Odd that a state with such a strict liquor control board would allow it.
That's because PA liquor (er wine and spirits) store employee = unionized state employee. Tattoo parlors = no union, no state benefits.
I did hear of someone getting hep and the likely cause (all the other potential causes were eliminated) was a contaminated tattoo needle. Makes you want to run out and get one don't it?
Lord Gonchar said:
Yeah, but the news tells us gas prices are scary and affects what we do, Jeff. Don't you listen to the media? You can't afford to take a trip - the TV and the internets said so!
Oh sure Gonch takes a shot at the media and gets a free pass! ;)
Gas cost me $25 round-trip in my little ghey Civic this year and probably would have cost me $18 last year. If $7 is really going to keep me away from doing that then I need to either 1. Stop listening to the media or 2. Get a hobby that requires me at home.
~Rob Willi
djDaemon said:
You do realize that you're essentially making fun of those who actually are affected by the rising cost of gas, right?
Ya think? That'd be a pretty dicky thing to do.
Nah. These guys got it. The hysteria around it all is silly. $4 on the gas pump is scary, but once you do the math it's not so bad. Certainly not enough to be a vacation breaker and if it is, you were probably living too close to the edge to begin with.
I'd say the people it's hurting the most are the ones who weren't able to visit parks (or take vacations) in the first place.
All of the piercing shops I've been to here around Cleveland are also tattoo shops, and they're all as clean as hospitals. You'd think that it's pretty common sense that if you don't see needles come out of sterilized packaging and accessories come out of an autoclave that something ain't right.
Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog
Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog
Lord Gonchar said:
Ya think? That'd be a pretty dicky thing to do.
No, I assumed you meant no ill will, and that you were merely going with the whole "hysteria" thing, but that's still sorta BS.
$4 on the gas pump is scary, but once you do the math it's not so bad.
I hate this "logic". In 3 years, gas prices have doubled. With that, every thing that gets touched by gas prices (see also: everything) rises in concert with that. But next year, people will still use that same argument and say "gas prices have only gone up one dollar to 5 bucks a gallon, so its no big deal".
My main beef is with this whole "you weren't supposed to be taking vacations" nonsense. You're suggesting there are people either wealthy enough that they see adverse impact on their budget, or people who were always too poor to go in the first place. And thus, an insignificant number in the middle. That's absurd, to put it lightly.
But whatever - its been argued on and on before, and I don't wanna start the whole debate over again. I just get sick of silly assumptions. :)
djDaemon said:
My main beef is with this whole "you weren't supposed to be taking vacations" nonsense. You're suggesting there are people either wealthy enough that they see adverse impact on their budget, or people who were always too poor to go in the first place. And thus, an insignificant number in the middle. That's absurd, to put it lightly.
That makes sense on the surface, but I do believe that's it's not that large of a number that we're talking about.
The amount that life costs goes up. I don't believe that on a year-to-year basis that it has gone up enough to affect many people beyond those that were 'living on the edge' to begin with - and as I said, I do believe that number isn't as large as it may seem.
Sure, you can argue beyond year-to-year numbers but where does it stop?
25,000 years ago Caveman Ugg got to roll down the hill for three shiny rocks and an elk tooth. Compared to that, it's amazing that anyone can afford anything anymore. ;)
And on a more serious note, I think we use year-to-year comparisons because that's exactly what the media does.
So yeah, I fully believe that if you were visiting an amusement park (or parks) last year and can't this year, that you've either gotten caught up in the hysteria or you probably shouldn't have been going last year because you were cutting it awfully close. I do think that middle number, on a year-to-year basis, is much smaller than one would think.
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Lord Gonchar said:
I don't believe that on a year-to-year basis that it has gone up enough to affect many people beyond those that were 'living on the edge' to begin with - and as I said, I do believe that number isn't as large as it may seem.
The problem is our entire economy and quality of living standards have been based on those people who shouldn't be going to their local amusement park (or buying a computer, or an Ipod, or a new house, or a SUV, or whatever) but are (were) still doing it. Like it or not a lot of American business was based on people playing who couldn't really afford it, but could still get into the game with easy credit. For a lot of people those days are coming to an end but gas prices are just one bit of the puzzle.
What really needed to happen was a federal tax on gas in the $2/gallon range back a few years ago. We've seen that $4 a gallon for gas is where people start to pull their gas guzzling tanks off the road and start conserving energy (somewhat) and instead of pissing away all of our gas money to build new theme parks in Dubai we could have been reinvesting the tax dollars here at home. But then again with the current state of things that's all pie-in-the-sky idealism at it's most wide-eyed and crazy.
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