Vortex East & West to convert to floor less?

Monday, November 10, 2014 11:28 AM

So in the recent coherence call l, cedar fair said if the Mantis conversion is as successful as they think it will be, there are two other coasters in the chain that could get similar treatment. This would most likely be the Vortexs. I hope they do personally. Thoughts?

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Monday, November 10, 2014 12:48 PM

I think it would be great if all B&M stand ups become sit-down or floorless. The stand up position does nothing for me and it is defiantly uncomfortable. I have ridden only two riddlers revenge and green lantern ultimate flight and I felt like I was getting kicked in the head during the ride. I have no desire to ride either of them again. I'm glad they stopped making new ones.

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Monday, November 10, 2014 12:55 PM

I think the biggest advantage in converting from stand-up to floorless is the significant decrease in amount of time it takes to load passengers.

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Monday, November 10, 2014 2:08 PM

I'm more interested in the incoherent calls. ;)

I think we'll see more of this happening if the Mantis conversion is received well.

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Monday, November 10, 2014 2:13 PM

If Rougarou (....still can't help using a Scooby Doo voice to say that....) is successful, absolutely Mr Ouimet and his team will do it again.

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Monday, November 10, 2014 2:35 PM

Chang and Iron Wolf should have made this leap when they were being relocated to NJ and MD, respectively. The Vortex rides (aka, The Twin Vortices) are boring to be sure, but not as rough as those two SF coasters.

I stand by my argument that standing up to ride is FAR from outstanding.

Last edited by rollergator, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:38 AM
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Monday, November 10, 2014 3:49 PM

It makes me chuckle to think that with such a great variety of coasters in California, it will likely be a 25 year old B&M Stand-Up coaster getting Rougarou'd that finally brings me out there.

I made an unplanned visit to Cedar Point on the Saturday of Mantis' last weekend in operation. It was one of the better coastering trips I've taken despite the ridiculous Halloweekend crowds.

Last edited by Walk-Off HBP, Monday, November 10, 2014 3:52 PM
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Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:06 AM

rollergator said:

Chang and Iron Wolf should have made this leap when they were being relocated to NJ and MD, respectively. The Vortex rides (aka, The Twin Vortices) are boring to be sure, but not as rough as those two SF coasters.

I stand by my argument that standing up to ride is FAR from outstanding.

Only problem,Great Adventure already has floorless.

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Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:30 AM

How is that a problem? La Rhonde has two inverted coasters. SFGam used to have two Arrow loopers. And two Wild Mice. Not really a 'problem'.

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Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:42 AM

Yeah we can't have two of the same wildly popular style of coaster at one park. What they SHOULD HAVE done was convert them into inverted stand-up coasters. And I don't mean put the trains under the track, I mean flip the restraint system so you ride while standing on your head... Hey I just solved the heartline problem! But now people will complain about feet banging, or "knocking boots" if you will!

Sorry, forgot the winky face 😋

Last edited by ShaneDenmark, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:11 PM
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Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:01 PM

And they could always convert them to simple sitdown coasters.

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Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:49 PM

I doubt it due to the coasters being so small and being popular coasters in the parks despite being stand-ups. But one may get removed and go to MA. Well that's my best guess for MA's next coaster.

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Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:06 PM

The only thing that makes me doubt that the Great Adventure Green Lantern stand-up ride would get the floorless treatment is that the ride is fairly new at the park. Has it's "newness" worn off yet? Has the park noticed a slowdown in popularity for the ride yet?

Because a slowdown in popularity is the real reason any park will cnvert a ride from standup to floorless, I think.

My guess is that Green Lantern is not being considered for the near future, but is not ruled out for further down the road.

I happen to like Vortex at Carowinds. It's not terrible and I really didn't find it to be too painful. It would make a fine floorless though.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:44 AM

I'm almost certain that Cedar Fair has no plans to convert Green Lantern at Six Flags Great Adventure.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:20 PM

I thought the conversation went from talking about just Cedar Fair to talking about the industry as a whole. lol

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Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:35 PM

^I haven't yet decided where I want this conversation to go...

*insert excessive winkies here*

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Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:17 PM

Yea great adventures likely to not be turning green lantern into a floorless anytime soon because they already have Bizzaro. But what would be cool is maybe the could turn green lantern into a Sit down like Kumba, and could possibly retheme green lantern (Which also might not happen) into like a Great American Scream Machine reborn thing.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:24 PM

They won't be converting Green Lantern anytime soon because Cedar Fair signed an exclusivity clause with B & M that lasts 5 years with regards to converting their stand-up models to floorless and/or traditional sit-down coasters.

Last edited by OhioStater, Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:24 PM
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Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:26 PM

OhioStater said:

They won't be converting Green Lantern anytime soon because Cedar Fair signed an exclusivity clause with B & M that lasts 5 years with regards to converting their stand-up models to floorless and/or traditional sit-down coasters.

Yea, this could happen, but probably not in about a decade or so. Long wait.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:36 PM

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