I have never heard bad things. Viper is the best non CCI new woodie out there and is better then most CCI's and to think it was built and designed in house by Six Flags. The thing earns an honorary CCI title from me. That double dip is just way too awesome.
----------------- Does CCI know how to make a bad coaster?
It's a great ride, but was better last year. It's still awesome this year, but AE outdoes it, IMO. It's still awesome, and I love it to death. I can't belive you've heard anything bad about it. The only thing bad about it is last time I rode it, only 1 train was loading the last car.
----------------- Deja Vu count this season: 1, but thats still more than most other people who've been to SFGAm this season!
I've been to SFGAm *countless* times in the past few years and have seen a perfect two-train operation every single time. What you need to remember is that Viper has a fairly long cycle, but no midcourse brakes (so it runs two trains). Because of this, the crew cannot send off a train until the other one passes the station the second time. I've never seen Viper run one train, and I've never seen the crew stacking trains (except for a few minor exceptions...like when a handicapped person is boarding, for instance). In any case, Viper is a fantastic ride.
Eagle has slow loading times (again, long cycle) but the crew stacks trains more often. Additionally, Eagle always has cars closed off). The ride runs four trains, though, so I'm not complaining. Not better than Viper right now, but if the red side ran backwards I think it would be.
If you love ejector airtime (at least in the back seat, where I rode), strong laterals, headchoppers galore, and especially a smooth ride, then Viper at SFGAm is the ride for you. Easily my favorite coaster in the entire park.
----------------- I get the feeling there's a conspiracy over at King's Island to remove anything that has "K" or "C" in its initials.
Viper is awesome. I don't think it has to be said anymore. However, I could see someone saying it is only "OK", if they heard all the hype about it, and then rode in the front, or forward middle. To really experience it properly, you should ride in the back. Seat 1.3 is awesome too, but you don't get any air on the first drop in the front, so the last seat still gets my vote for best.
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Kyle W. said: For all of you that have been to SFGAm, is the viper bad or not? I have heard some bad comments about viper.
Viper is, without a doubt, the best ride at Great America. Plant yourself in the third seat from the front (the Magic Seat) for the best ride. (Notice I didn't say "'sit' in the third seat" .. the term 'sit' would be false advertising!)
Viper is such a perfect layout: The start of the ride is quite average ... but just when you start to get too comfortable, all hell breaks loose!
Really, I think mainly that Viper is liked by almost everyone because it's a somewhat clone of the Astroland Cyclone in New York. Even though it has different twists and turns, it's first part layout is still the same. ;) I love it, last year it was my first wooden coaster for me to put my hands up on, major airtime! :)
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