Video editing help request
Anyway, the bottom line is, QuickTime has evolved into a media exchange format, and if you have QuickTime movies you ought to be able to import those into whatever editing package you are using provided that package supports QuickTime. I'm pretty sure that Avid Xpress DV, Final Cut Pro, and iMovie can all import generic QuickTime movies, and I would be really surprised if you couldn't do the same with Adobe Premier. Some of the lesser editing packages (some of the freebies, the AVI-based systems, and the nothing-but-DV systems) might not be able to handle it, but the more elaborate systems ought to be able to import all kinds of stuff. Including QuickTime.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
I used to do it for a living, when you had to use three tape machines and a clever controller to do a fancy transition. In those days you had to worry about generation loss (the picture degradation with each new copy) and plan all of your edits before you did anything, because you can't just "cut" the tape and insert another scene the way you do with computer-based editing.
QuickTime is the bomb, and it's core to Media100 and Avid, the two most common pro systems on the planet (not to mention Final Cut Pro, which is Apple anyway, duh).
Sorenson 3 is good stuff Dave, you just need the right tools (Cleaner 5 + Sorenson Developer w/ variable bit rate) and a lot of patience to get the right results. If you've watched video on certain Cedar Fair sites or Badnitrus, you've seen my Sorenson encoding. There's a reason that all of the movie trailers are encoded that way... it's the best trade-off for size vs. quality.
My favorite is the new (well, recently posted, anyway) Superman Ultimate Flight video. 320x240 at 30 fps, 24-bit color, only 14.5 MB. No other codec can do that with such good results.
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On the other hand, I was playing with a compliant MPEG-4 encoder today and was really impressed. Quality is comparable to what I got with Avid's QuickTime encoder (3:30 -> 25 Mb) but the file size was under 9 Mb! There seems to be a problem with the processor, though, as it wouldn't let me pipe from the QuickTime DV stream straight to MPEG-4; I had to convert to MPEG-2 first and I know I lost quality in that stage...
For the curious: My formal education is in video production, and as the link I posted earlier suggests, I'm still a professional A/V geek...in fact this past semester I had to help teach the intro TV production course. Technically I ought to know more about video editing than I do about roller coasters. :) Jeff: You had a controller talking to all three decks?! Way cool! I always had to roll the B-deck by hand. I'll bet you had time code, too, something I always wished I had... :) Gotta love S-VHS...
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Now Jeff, you don't know me well enough to call me a moron or jackass. Maybe some might think my opinion is moronic, and that is just fine. But to attack me personally...come on now. I am a Special Education Technician for the San Diego Unified School District and I run my own profitable mobile D.J. business at 26 years old. Hardly a moron.
Say what you want about my opinions. I love a good debate, but to resort to name calling is usually indicative of a weak argument. With that said, I love your website, but I think YOUR opinions are moronic.
Have a nice day.
D.J. VICDOGG said:
Are you saying that anyone who has ever downloaded a song from a file-sharing program is a jackass and a moron?
As someone who's only source of income is music I have to answer that with a yes. I'd like to include an asterisk though. As long as you still go to your local retailer and buy the music you like and support these artists by seeing them live and purchasing merchandise then I have no problem with "sampling" the goods before you buy. However I'm not so blind as to say it's not taking something for nothing.
I am borrowing from my peers.
Heh, the standard plea of the guilty. "Borrowing" involves using someone else's posession for a short period of time. "Pirating" involves making unauthorized duplicate copies of someone else's possesions for permanent use. When you file share, you're doing the latter, not the former.
Besides, my circle of "friends" isn't nearly as big as the worldwide network file trading programs create. Asking a buddy to borrow a CD is a far cry from copying something from someone I'll never meet.
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Overpricing is very relative. If I work on a certain product for over three years, I think it's no more than fair to charge a large amount for it. I have to live as well. I can understand you use Kazaa, I do as well, but you must realize that isn't illegal for nothing.
This debate can go on for ever, but the fact is that it's illegal. And if I see anyone making illegal use of my work, that person can better start running right away. You're an entrepeneur yourself, you wouldn't like it if you didn't get paid for your DJ work as well. Same here. If someone "borrows" my work from his "pear", I don't get paid.
Your argument that you can't be called a moron because of your education and current work is rather weak. I owned my own internet-company at the age of 14, and universities are fighting battles to have me sign up. That doesn't stop me from making stupid remarks, and mistakes. Nobody is perfect you know..
I think (or should I say hope) that Jeff means that your statement and justification concerning illegal use of software is everything but smart. I totally agree that he should have done this a bit more subtile, but don't forget he developes software for a living. That makes this subject rather sensitive. Hope you can understand..
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*** This post was edited by DRNK on 12/28/2002. ***
VICDOGG: Good, now we know enough about you that if the BSA (or the US Secret Service, which for some reason oversees piracy with the FBI) wants to find you and bust you, they know where to look. Heck, they can even subpoena your IP address from me.
No, Dave, never had a TC generator, so I had all kinds of annoying single frame misses on some edits. It was really annoying.
I agree about the expense for the additional software, but hey, when you start encoding for cash you'll forget you ever spent that money.
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I think I got that right...of course, I am sure somebody will correct me if I didn't... :)
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
That makes sense I guess. It's just that most people (myself included) think they're just around to take a bullet for the president!
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Mike
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How did I know that someone would bring it up either way.
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It's a Pinnacle product. It's not supposed to ever work!
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I'm not familiar with the Pinnacle stuff, but just to be certain...you're trying to capture through a video card, rather than through a Firewire port? It sounds like Pinnacle is trying to talk to a 1394 device rather than a video card...do you have a source selection option in your setup? Or do you need an outboard DV transcoder that Pinnacle forgot to tell you that you need? :)
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
If you are using your camera's AV output I would strongly suggest getting Dazzle's Hollywood DV-Bridge. It can convert your video to DV(or Mpeg, avi, etc.). And has S-video inputs (and outputs) so you get the best quality for an anolg signal. It connects to you computer through 1394 (or "Firewire"). I use it with my Sony MV camera.
While I'm on the subject...
If anyone is considering getting a Sony MV camcorder, do yourself a favor and DO NOT get it. Sure it is really small and looks cool, but it is not DV format. Sony decided to make up their own spin off of DV format and call it "MV". It will not be recognized through firewire by ANY digital video editing program except (guess what?) Sony's Movie-Shaker program. I really got screwed by Sony on that purchase. So I'm getting a real DV and will only use the MV for onride footage (because of it's size). I use Dazzle Hollywood DV-Bridge to convert it to DV format and I use Premiere, but am thinking to switching to Avid when I can afford it.
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-Bret Pritchett
AIM: DrFrreezz
If at first you don't succeed... skydiving isn't for you
I thought the MicroMV format wasn't at all related to DV; I thought it was strict MPEG-II (the same coding used for DVDs). One problem with MPEG-II is that because it uses interframe compression (DV is strictly intraframe compression) you can't edit just any frame of an MPEG-II stream. The problem with that is that editing then requires uncompressing the MPEG-II stream and then recompressing to DV or whatever if you want to change formats. Unless you want to work with 601 video (and who can afford THAT?) you would be stacking compression and that is bad for video quality, as all the current video compression algorithms are lossy.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Dave:
At the time, I didn't know to much about what DV format was or what MPEG was. The salesman said it was the smallest digital video camera on the market, and on and on about the great quality of digital video. I probably should of done a little more research before I bought it, but think that Sony did a little deceptive advertising on it. They did call it the world's smallest Digital Video Camcorder. To most people, that means digital video = digital editing. Unfortunately it's a little more complicated than that. If I would of known then what I know now, I wouldn't of bought it.
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-Bret Pritchett
AIM: DrFrreezz
If at first you don't succeed... skydiving isn't for you
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