I can't remember what they said exactly when I was there for Spring Con last month, but they were "marketing" it at the park as the world's only "something" and not just the "_______est of its kind in Northern California" like they werre doing with every other coaster.
There has to be some sort of defintion. Like, Maverick's first hill takes riders 84 degrees from being completely upside down and Millennium Force's overbanks take riders about 50 degrees from being upside down. By the looks of it, V2 takes riders 30-35 degrees away from being completely upside down. Where do you draw the line?
^Can't speak for overbanks or "greater than vertical drops"...
But V2.1, or as we decided to rename it, "Diagonal Velocity" goes COMPLETELY upside-down in the inversion. The rcdb pic above demostrates how/where that happens...and for a cool effect, it stretches right over the entrance plaza... :)
rollergator said: But V2.1 goes COMPLETELY upside-down in the inversion.
No. Check out this picture. In the first frame is the regular orientation where the ride comes as close being upside down as 30 degrees. In the middle is if the spike was rotated flat and riders come zero degrees away from being exactly upside down. There would be no arguing something like that is an inversion. The third frame is the old twirl where the closest a rider comes to being upside down is 90 degrees away... pretty far, and is clearly not an inversion.
So is an inversion between 0 - 30 degrees from upside down? Or 0 - 10? Or 0 - 45? See my point?
SFoGswim said: So is an inversion between 0 - 30 degrees from upside down? Or 0 - 10? Or 0 - 45? See my point?
A common idea is that an inversion is anything that rotates more than 135 degrees, halfway between 90 and 180, making what we usually consider "overbanks" not quite inversions and most things past that inversions.
I mean this isn't a set, golden rule or anything but a lot of the culture has accepted that as the standard.
But anyway by that standard that portion of V2 would have to be at a 45 degree angle, right?
Edit - Or no, less than 45 degrees! *** Edited 6/13/2007 12:36:31 AM UTC by matt.***
Or you could look at it this way if it is an Inverted roller coaster and the car is above the track section its an inversion, or in the same aspect, if a sit-down roller coaster goes under the track section its an inversion.
No, he wasn't, but makes a point. Obviously it can't be restricted to just zeros, but it has to be somewhere close in my opinion. And Sheikrafanatic, your theory would give a lot of coasters inversions that don't really have them (any Intamin overbank [just by definition]).
I'm sure this could be debated just as much as whether or not S:TE is a coaster. I mean, what about Mantis's inclined loop?