Track Spotted : North-Bound I75 in Sidney, Ohio

Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:45 PM
Just wanted to post to let everyone know that I have just spotted a semi-load (flatbed trailer) with several large pieces of coaster track heading north-bound on I75 thru Sidney, Ohio (about 45 minutes north of Dayton).

It was painted bright yellow and orange and one section appeared to be a break run. It appeared to be B&M track - I'm sorry, I'm not good at identifying track by manufacturer...

Also, I couldn't snap any pictures as I was heading south-bound and it was on the other side of me on the interstate...

Anyone have any ideas? *** Edited 10/24/2007 6:47:55 PM UTC by OhioCoasterFan***

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:51 PM
Behemoth!

http://www.rcdb.com/ig4005.htm?picture=2

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:56 PM
Anybody know why they would ship it on I-75 instead of I-71? Seems like they're taking the long way around.
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:04 PM
Im guessing its the big lake in the way. Detroit Im guessing is the best crossing point into Canada.
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:05 PM
I-75 through Toledo area, then up to Detroit into Canada. From there you head east to Toronto. About 500 miles.

I-71 Would mean heading to Cleveland then to Buffalo into Canada. From there, you dogleg back to Toronto. Not sure the milage.

Isn't I-75 the shorter option? Also, perhaps customs etc has something to do with it. I know from personal experience that the border at Buffalo/Niagara backs up HORRIBLY... whereas I've not had trouble getting held up too badly in Detroit.

Shaggy

*** Edited 10/24/2007 7:14:29 PM UTC by Shaggy***

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:14 PM
Where is the track coming from? I am curious to know...
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:20 PM
Maybe Southern Ohio Fabricators? They're just outside Cincinnati and have done track/supports for Raptor, Mantis, and probably other B&Ms.
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:22 PM
Thank you, I didn't realize there was a fabricator in/near Cincinnati.
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:33 PM
Should've checked the mileage. Shaggy hit it on the head: Cincinnati to Toronto is 493 miles via I-75 and 538 miles via I-71. Mystery put to rest.
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:19 PM

Pagoda Gift Shop said:
Maybe Southern Ohio Fabricators? They're just outside Cincinnati and have done track/supports for Raptor, Mantis, and probably other B&Ms.

These guys also fabricated the track for Knott's Silver Bullet.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:42 PM
^I believe they fabricated the track for every B&M in North America, with the possible exception of Batman the Goliath Gambit which originally came from Japan.
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:46 PM
Ironic isn't it? That the park the manufacturer is closest to (KI) has yet to receive a B&M...

However a birdie tells me that may change in the next 2-3 years.

Shaggy

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:28 PM
One can only hope Shaggy, because KI's coaster count is missing two things in my mind at the moment:

-*Steel Hyper Coaster
-A good B&M Inverted or Floorless

Even just getting one of those would really improve that park for me (not that I dont like it now, but I would really love it with one or both of those.)

*Edit-dont need any smart SOB corrections, Im talking about a traditional steel hyper.

*** Edited 10/24/2007 9:29:29 PM UTC by Touchdown***

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:36 PM
Except that I think Kings Island already has the widest selection of inverted coasters in North America--

o Top Gun (Arrow suspended)
o Face/Off (Vekoma Invertigo)
o Rugrats Runaway Reptar (Vekoma junior inverted)
Though admitedly they took out...
o Scooby Doo Ghoster Coaster (Caripro Batflyer)

How about a nice B&M floorless hyper coaster? :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:54 PM
^ A B&M Floorless hypercoaster? You do know that with floorless coaches requires horse-collars...due to the inability to incorporate a functional lapbar system for four-abreast seating on a floorless chassis. Why do you think their current hypercoasters have elevated seating, but with a floor? That's the best alternative they could come up with for a floorless hypercoaster train. :)
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:02 PM
Krax... I would have agreed with you until S and S built a lap bar restraint that functions well on a floorless seat for thier Screaming Swings. With a telescoping lap bar, a floorless hyper is a real possibility. This was debated on CW Mania prior to Behemoths announcement as a possibility for Wonderland, as the rumors were that there was a different seating style to be used for this hyper. Turned out to to be the staggered seating arrangement though.
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:22 PM
^ You're right about the S&S restraints for the Screamin' Swing. A telescoping lapbar is possible, but I believe only adaquete for certain types of rides.

A hypercoaster and a fixed swing ride have different ride dynamics. Being whipped around a tight helix, coasting over the top of huge hills, or diving 75-degrees down a 200-foot drop isn't the same as swinging in a 120-degree arch over and over. The varying forces from many directions on a roller coaster requires a lot more out of restraint systems.

Even if B&M were to do it, the four-abreast seating arrangement would have to be thrown out, opting for two-abreast. There is no way the two middle seats could have a telescoping lapbar with the outside seats in the way.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:56 PM
Detroit is a good place to enter Canada because of the intermodal connections there, if they wanted to use them. They can handle a lot more volume than they can in New York as well.
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:02 PM
Traditional, hyper, floorless trains may not work...........but what about a hyper-floorless-dive machine!

True, they still have OTSR's, but if KI got a more outside the box model than Sheikra or Griffon (i.e. more elements than drops and immelmanns; 0-g roll?), that would more than make up for it, in my opinion. A traditional hyper coaster would be just as good though; both have good capacity, which is what KI needs.

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:45 PM
You can easily have a floorless coaster with just a lap bar. Take the stupid shoulder strips off of Maverick and what's left? A lap bar that attaches only to the seat - not to the floor of the ride. Does B&M make anything like this? No. Is it possible? Totally.
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