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Colin W. said:I really have to agree here, comparing pop-up kill users with thieves just sounds too much like that moronic run of Super Bowl ads that said people who do drugs are funding terrorism. It's a ridiculous argument and intelligent people will see it as such.
Uhhh, Colin?
I think Intelligent people do realize the connection.
As I understand it Afghanistan (and other countries that support terrorism) are some of the the largest narcotic providers to the world. From the provider to the end user, money changes hands the whole way up the ladder.
Do you think that all drugs originate inside the USA? even something as common as Marijuana is a huge import.
And do you think that high level dealers inside the USA do not use a form of terrorism in their business?
Please think before you say stuff like this....
I agree that these ads were an attempt to shock people out of using drugs. But they are true. That may be a new reason to quit
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Planned Parks for this summer: SFoGa, CP, SFWoA, SFGAm, SFKK, PKI, MA, SFStL, HW, KW. Is 10 enough?
Cornerstone Festival 2002... I will be there
James K, I think Colin was hinting at the fact that the argument is an oversimplification of the situation. You could just as easily say this: make drugs legal and this country won't be a source of money for terrorism.
Look at prohibition... anyone who chose to drink during that time supported mobsters (i.e. terrorists) and most people look back at that as a failed experiment. Its a pretty good analogy, whether you agree or disagree with drug use.
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Do you bleed blue? BLUES HOCKEY 2002
Agent Johnson said:
Well, you ask mommy or daddy for a check...Its a grown up world out there.
AJ im not trying to be rude, but just because we are teenagers (which we can not control) Doesn't mean we can't like roller coasters. I know that he was trying to use an ad stopper to cheat Jeff or whatever happened, But sometimes you older guys yell or dont acknowledge us just because we are younger. This isnt directed to just you but weren't you all younger once.
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Touch The Sky
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Off with the trims!
My fellow Americans; Let's Roll!
Woodencoaster.com
Well.... hmmmmmmmmm.... I should just shut up here, but I feel like I should spill my pointless few cents worth of argumentation. I disagree that popup killers are theft. Yes, the pop-ups are indeed a part of this site, and yes, they are annoying. I myself deal with them. I click on them. (not all the time, but enough.) Having more programs slow your computer down? Yeah....so? All these arguments for, or against, pop-ups are a huge waste of internet space, that ultimately costs more for Jeff to run his site. Jeff, I love your site. Honestly I do. I love to read how people think, and I love to read angry posts too...(read as Jeremy!!!-dude you are funny..) I guess by my hedging at the greater issue, I just want to say that if you have such a huge problem over pop-up killers and the like, you should charge a fee for membership, plain and simple. No freeloading.... no guests.... no problems. You know who you are dealing with because you have their credit card numbers. No more punk kids that have been banned coming back on with some stupid name like RAVEN-alpengeist-Rider (no offense to ravenrider). I know you know what I am talking about. If you don't set an extreme example by forcing people to pay for a membership, you can't complain. I realize it is your site, and I think that it is a beautiful labor of love. It is obvious that you dedicate an amazing amount of time to this site, work or not. Still, I don't think it is "stealing." Not entirely fair, yes, but it isn't that black and white. Again, charge for your site 100% of the time, and all is well. AND you will always be right. (*boy, I hope you aren't pissed* :))
Rob
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www.tripowered.com
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He let the contents of the bottle do the thinking; can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding.
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Off with the trims!
My fellow Americans; Let's Roll!
Woodencoaster.com
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www.tripowered.com - scary......................
The only sure fire way to make money on the Internet is porn.
One recent problem is that there have been a lot of pop-ups, many selected for me, that I've had to deselect. My personal goal is to not have more than three per session, but I've missed that target recently because my ad company (Burst Media) has been adding them faster than I can kill them. A year ago I disallowed all pop-ups, but it got to a point where I wasn't making a dime. I will try to limit the pops to three as best I can, but I can't promise anything.
Yes, I get paid for each ad, regardless of where it appears. In most cases, it's on a cost-per-thousand basis. I generally make a dollar or less per thousand ads. Let me do a little math for you...
My costs (if you pretend I never bought the servers, routers, switches or any software) is about $42 per day, strictly for the act of having the servers connected to the Internet.
If I got two club memberships every day, subtracting two bucks for postage, club card printing, etc., that gets me $6 away from breaking even. In reality, I get about 20 memberships per month. That's $13 a day.
If an ad appears a thousand times in a day, I get a dollar. On your average day this time of year, I serve about 50,000 pages per day, and that many ads. Less than half of those are actual paid ads, the rest the house ads for POP Forums. Of the "paid" ads at least half of those are cost-per-click ads, meaning I don't get anything for them if they aren't clicked on. At that point you're looking at 12,500 ads that, if I'm lucky, average out to a dollar per thousand, or $12.50. To make matters worse, even if a campaign is cost-per-thousand, I might get optimized out of the campaign if it has a poor response rate (anyone remember the AT&T skyscrapers that appeared for about three days?).
You see where this is going? The fact is that if there were no club or I didn't sell a POP Forums license now and then, there would be no CoasterBuzz. My goal has never been to make money, but if it's going to have my name on it, the connection and speed has to be top notch (do a tracert from you to CoasterBuzz and Yahoo and see who is closer), and that costs money. I took a $4,000 loss last year, and I don't intend to lose that much this year. This winter was nearly the death of the site, and I'm still hurting from it. That was lots of fun to worry about when I was unemployed.
You may have noticed the Cedar Point ads as of late, and they're really going to make summer a lot easier to deal with. Visit their site and visit the park this summer... their sponsorship will make CoasterBuzz rock solid for the next six months.
If I were able to nail down one or two more sponsorships like that in my spare time (oh wait, I don't have any spare time), even on a flat-fee basis, you'd never see another pop-up again for at least a year or more.
That's my world. I love this site, I love what it has become. That's why I get really pissed off when people take what I've given them at no charge and can't do me the courtesy of letting me recover my costs.
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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"
My membership isn't due again till november....can I pay now? Seriously...is there any way for us members to help you out a little more? Hell, being a member got me registered for Timbersfest today. What else can we do to help?
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I've just seen the future...what was I saying?
Jeff.... now that is what I wanted to know. What an eloquent answer!!! Perhaps all the little people will buy a membership now. :) I hope your site continues to be successful.
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www.tripowered.com (where I don't make a dime!)
$20 doesn't sound like too much to ask for now, does it?
For the time I spend here, it's the best entertainment value on the net.
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Without the chaindog, you'd never get up the lifthill...
Chaindog said:For the time I spend here, it's the best entertainment value on the net.
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Without the chaindog, you'd never get up the lifthill...
Mega coasterbuzz ditto's to that.
Daggnabit Rob, I bought your CD (rock'n) and now I'm gonna have to buy your doggone membership TOO??
That does it, you have to hook me up with 14 of your wife's single friends for this. *evil grimmace*
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Sorrrrrrrry folks! Parks closed. The moose out front should have told you.
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-Bob (formerly Coaster Jedi)
Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park
"Your proctologist called, he found your head!" ~Jerry "The King" Lawler
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Off with the trims!
My fellow Americans; Let's Roll!
Woodencoaster.com
I kinda agree with bigkirby, everytime I go to click on an ad to help out the site, it is Pop Forums, and I wouldn't buy them and if you own them, you don't make any $ from me clicking on it. I don't click on those ones, and then I open new pages and all I see is more Pop Forums ads. I do click on those CP ads though.
Edit: Nevermind, I found one and clicked on it. Jeff, it doesn't matter to me at all, but did you know you have porn ads? I thought this was a family site, and I was just notifying you in case you didn't know.
*** This post was edited by SFGA2001 on 4/9/2002. ***
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