Tomb Raider thoughts.....
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2Hostyl said:
JordonDunham said:
"From Turning 16 this summer, getting a 99 yellow mustang and spending a month in canada, I can only hope for a chance to hit cedarpoint on halloweekend and maybe indiana beach to ride their new reinvampment of superstious mountain."What type of parent allows a 16 yr old to have a Mustang? Especially a male child. 16 yr old males are too young, dumb, and full of C@#% to be having a "speed machine" like that!
I'll be sure to add you to my prayer list
jeremy
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Besides, if we were really shutting down people we disagreed with, would Jeremy (2Hostyl) still be around? I think not. - Jeff 1/24/02
Wow. Are those parents insane? I'm going to PKI next weekend and can't wait to ride the coasters... oh and TR.TR too... if the line isn't long.
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Beer, my soon to be wife, coasters, and the FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Is this a great country or what!!
RideMan said:
It's one of the longest flat-ride cycles in the park (not counting load and unload...the Monster beats everything if you go that route...). AmTech warns Orbiter owners not to run the thing longer than about 90 seconds lest the riders start...well, you know. Flight of Fear is only a minute and a half. Tomb Raider is actually a quite a long ride! And yet people are complaining about it being "too short."
Dave, I agree with what you said. I timed the ride from start to finish at 2min and 30 seconds. That's not exactly a short ride time. Since there is so much going on inside the ride, it does make the time go by.
As for the ending, I have seen three ending so far believe it or not. The first few times I rode, it ended without any dialog. The next couple of times, it was a bit different with dialog, and the last two times, the eyes of the statue did something. While these are minor changes, they were enough to make the ride a bit different. The ride cycle remained the same each time.
As for the hang time felt on the ride, I think it is just about the right amount of time. Now given they don't splash riders anymore (at least that is what I have been hearing), when Shaggy and I rode it wth the water effects on full blast, the hang time didn't seem long due to the fact that we were trying to avoid being soaked and weren't paying attention to being upside down.
Olympic,
Sorry you failed to enjoy the ride. I myself felt the hype more than exceede the ride because I personally wasn't hoping or expecting anything honestly. The park did a fantastic job with this ride and it does show when guest get off the ride with a smile on their face.
-Sean
May take on TR:TR is that it is one of the greatest rides ever built outside of Orlando. PKI has been able to create a complete story line for the ride. From the moment you enter the tomb the experience begins and you forget that you are at an amusement park. The ride could be a little bit more exciting for my taste, but you have to remember that to the average guest it could be more then enough. I feel the PKI has definitely raised the bar for theme park rides. They have been able to bring the magic and experience of Disney to Ohio. PKI knew that coaster enthusiast wouldn't be there prime target for this ride, but rather families who want Disney type ride without going to Orlando. I commend PKI for what they have done, the complete experience is great. My only comment is the lack of prostshow themeing, you get off the ride and nothing, just a walk around the big building, I think they could have put some themeing in the exit back to Rivertown.
I was also hoping that there would be things going on in the line.
In the future, I would like to see that park find their need for more flat rides and Middle-area rides.
Hopefully they can convert the static old time car track into something else, get better bumper cars, Throw in a large Ferris Wheel and Teacup ride, and a family Mouse from Arrow and add a few family thrill rides like a Chance Wipeout, Huss Condor, Chance Delerium, Mondial Top Scan, Huss Breakdnace and a new Enterprise.
I completly understand what Incidentalist is saying but as for the whole Top Spin concept... Well I am a fan of SFWoA's Texas Twister but TR is NOTHING like a regular top spin (In my opinion.) If you just want a top spin, well then maybe TR isn't for you, but for the actual riding experience, TR is Great.
For me, TR is better than a regular Top Spin. I think the main reason being because some of it is in darkness and that adds to the excitement of it all. And of course the theming is Wonderful.
PKI has something really, really neat in TR:TR. They've got a high thrill ride, as Rideman eluded to earlier, that they can literally change every year to keep it fresh. Essentially by changing ride/effects programs, you can get several different rides out of one installation. It's obvious that they're still tweaking since there really haven't been many reports of repeatability in the ride. (Either that or the effects and ride are really flighty)
Overall the reviews have been good from this weekend. The bad reviews are from those who either expected way too much, or from those who don't like Top Spins. I fall into the latter category. I really don't like hanging by my upper body like that for an extended period of time, so TR:TR isn't going to get a lot of repeat business from me. However, I will probably ride it once per visit just to see what has changed from the last time.
Here's something else to consider now. Early Friday I noticed that the Tomb Raider line extended down the midway in front of LaRosa's and the former location of the World's Largest Hanging Basket. Fortunately, the Beast was down this weekend (I thought I'd never say that). What's going to happen next weekend when the two lines might coexist? I can see a traffic cop directing TR:TR riders through HB land or just simply reroute the line towards the train station.
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Sean F. said:
As for the hang time felt on the ride, I think it is just about the right amount of time. Now given they don't splash riders anymore (at least that is what I have been hearing), when Shaggy and I rode it wth the water effects on full blast, the hang time didn't seem long due to the fact that we were trying to avoid being soaked and weren't paying attention to being upside down.
-Sean
The only complaint I have with the splashing of riders is....
It's supposed to look like Lava, and when you get hit with cold water, it's going to take away that "lava-ness"
now, I for one am all in favor of a light splashing on a hot summer day, but I would HATE to come off that ride completely SOAKED, never knowing it was going to happen.
I'll toss in my 2 cents about the ride in itself. First off, that thing is HUGE. I was absolutely amazed by the size of the arms on that thing. It also seems to have a much smoother, more comfortable ride than a normal Top Spin, not to mention the restraints don't crush your 2 friends, and they don't hurt your shoulders as much either.
I really enjoyed the ride in itself. I probably won't wait an hour for it again, unless I'm there with my enthusiast friends (Sean F, John Peck etc..) and we have something to talk about. The theming is great (but i'm still and IOA fan:-) ). The preshow/movie was the best. nothing like watching Angelina shaking her stuff....mmmm..
When the ride stops, it's not settled down at the bottom yet, so it almost feels like the ride is not over. I almost wish it would come down, appear to be over (fake out), then take off and do a few flips before it ends. that's just me. It just seems like it needs a finale, I'll agree with John.
Thanks to PKI for a fun ride.
--Josh
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*** This post was edited by Raven-Phile on 4/8/2002. ***
So on a hot summer day, would it make more sense to get hit with 3000 degree water? ;-)
Actually I will be suprised to see the havy water sprays turned back on. Those that rode it after the media event have no idea how different the water giesers are now. They don't even come remotely close to hitting you.
Shaggy
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JulieSFO said:
I completly understand what Incidentalist is saying but as for the whole Top Spin concept... Well I am a fan of SFWoA's Texas Twister but TR is NOTHING like a regular top spin (In my opinion.) If you just want a top spin, well then maybe TR isn't for you, but for the actual riding experience, TR is Great.
Julie,
That's what I think people are forgetting. It's a LOT more than just a ride in a box. If people remember that, then perhaps they would enjoy it as much as the rest of us do?
Incidentallist,
I am the one that mentioned the slight chances to the eyes but I never said anything about that being enough of a chance to get me to re-ride. I was just pointing out that the park is indeed working on getting a stable ending.
I also enjoy SFWOA's Top Spin a lot, but if Tomb Raider ran their ride in the same mode that SFWOA's ran theirs, then they might as well not enclosed it. It would have been a good ride, but enclosing it and making riders see things while riding works much better IMO.
Josh,
Sorry I didn't make it down to the park this weekend. Looks like the next time I will be able to make it down is next Sunday.
-Sean
Shaggy is right, the amount of water hitting you now is way less than what went on Wednesday morning. It didn't feel too great when it was in the 30's, but I can see it being quite a relief on a 90 degree day.
As I've expressed to Sean, I think they'll give us more "Top Spin" action in the future, after they see what the general public is willing to tolerate. It reminds me of Tower of Terror at WDW. They've changed the ride program so many times on that, you never know what to expect. That's the great thing about a ride like TR, it has that kind of capability.
Jacob
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The great thing about this ride that is missing from so many other rides is its flexibility. The ability to change the program is one of it's stronger suits.
(Spoiler stuff again....just in case you're still trying to keep the experience fresh.....ahhh, who am I kidding.)
I wish that PKI would put something on the back wall to light up when you are in the holding pattern upside down. Right now, it's a blank wall, and the holding pattern is in the dark. That's ok, since it adds to the mystery of the ride, but I'd like to see something done in the future with that unused space. Also, I agree with the lack of a finale. Fog, by itself, does not a finale make. It would be better to me if they lit the whole place up, like they do when you're being lowered, then hit the fog machine and make one last blast spin through the building before coming to a stop with the whole shebang glowing like a Christmas tree. But that's just me.
(Spoiler off.....)
Anyway, as it stands, it's a great addition to the stable of rides at PKI. It provides family adventure, in a great setting. Sure to some it may be the FRIAB that they didn't want, but to the GP it'll be the family adventure that will make their day fun.
I know I had fun.
Chris
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Shaggy said:
[giant quotation removed... come on guys, this isn't Usenet, it's not necessary to quote entire posts. -J]
I am with Dave 100% on everything he said.
I stated before that the hang time is too long and made my shoulders hurt the rest of the day.
I also didn't get the ending, SOmthing about escapeing and the lights comming on? Hell throw a 4 backflip ending!
Chuck, who liked it, Just thought it could be much better done.
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Americana is opening in 2002 and needs your support as many company picnics are already schedualed for someplace else, Indivdual visits are very improtant to the parks survival.
*** This post was edited by Jeff on 4/9/2002. ***
john peck said:
One of my feelings is that the ride didn't have any GRAND FINALIE. Whether it be a few more flips with another effect near the end or whatever.... I just left the ride feeling like something else was missing.
Exactly, I liked all the expereinces, I just thought it needed a ending.
Chuck
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Charles Nungester
Americana is opening in 2002 and needs your support as many company picnics are already schedualed for someplace else, Indivdual visits are very improtant to the parks survival.
*** This post was edited by Jeff on 4/9/2002. ***
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