Togo Stand Ups - Why are they bad?

Togo restraints hurt. They were bulky and hard... I nearly dislocated my knee at PKD. I kept getting thrown around into the sides of the lap bars, and I still had the crotch-hit problem.

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I agree with Vertigo. When I rode Shockwave I did not mind the restraints at all, but the helix was one of the most painful coaster experiences of my life due to headache inducing bludgeoning of my head induced by the roughness of the track.

Togo had the design right. The Togo restraints on the stand-up are an excellent design. I particularly appreciate the fact that the Togo bar design is absolutely fail-safe: If all of the latches simultaneously fail, because your arms are sticking through a closed loop, you are NOT going to come out of the thing.

That's the good part.

The bad part is that the things are designed to accommodate average Japanese body dimensions, which means that big Americans like me simply don't fit. The distance between the top of the seat and the top of the shoulder loop is simply too small. Stretch that space out a few inches, and it would be a perfectly reasonable design.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

I have ridden good ones and bad ones, but I will tell you that if you ever rode Fujin Raijin II at Expoland in Osaka, you would swear off TOGO the rest of your life. Terrifying, bumpy, painful, and horrible transitions....ugh. (I admit I liked it the first time I rode it in '98, but now? ugh)
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King Cobra was my fav stand-up until I rode Riddler this past March. Shockwave at PKD and KC are polar opposites, IMO. Shockwave is a way more bumpy and jerky ride.

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Add me to the list of TOGO fans... both rides and restraints.

KC and Manhattan Express are the only two I've ridden, but I liked 'em both very much. And KC's restraints are comfy and give you more freedom than B&M's.

Only problem with KC's system is that pinch point when both people open their shoulder bars at the same time.

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Chaindog said:

The biggest problem with the restraints was getting into them. You had to just about dislocate your shoulders.

Yep, same here. I enjoyed the ride a lot and the restraints were comfortable once you were in them. But the problem was getting into them, it took me a couple minutes figuring out how to get into them.

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The weird thing is I've never had a problem with being "hurt" on the B&M stand-up restraints...I even rode with a hernia and didn't feel a thing.

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I've never had a problem with either Togo or B&M restraints. But then I raced bicycles for 10 years, so I probably have a pretty tough seat. Lest comfortable ride I've ever had on a stand up was the Intamin at La Ronde which I found to be a bit of a head banger.

I also like the Togo restraints.

However, the problem I have with them is not that they are hard to get into, but that they don't lock into place. When you're riding, obviously they won't come open, but they will close more. So if you inadvertently try to squeeze your arms together, then the restraint will become very tight. I have known short friends of mine to get their head trapped in between the two halves of the restraint, which I imagine is not a comfortable thing.