This is my first topic in a while so dont get mad. Is it me or do TOGO coasters seem to have unfriendly roughness? Like the Manhatten Express from what I heard is as rough as heck, and then the Viper and SFGadv just got torn down too. My friends' friend's mom went on the Viper and her earring came out! Do you think Togo is a bad coaster designing company?
Whoa! Stop the presses. SFGadv. got torn down? I'm just kidding with you (read your post). By the way, is there ever such a thing as friendly roughness at a themepark (besides the bumper cars at Knoebels)? Viper, was simply brutal. There was too much happening in too small of a space. There were only two elements on the ride--an inline twist--which is where most people experienced neck problems, and then the Ultra Twister-like spiral followed by a sharp turn that didn't feel good either. Good riddance.
They are working on Mahattan Express, according to Screamscape. They are trying out new trains (they have pictures), which apparently need more modification before they're put into permanent use. There's a video floating out there of someone riding ME, and he's truly hating life the whole time. Well, Shockwave at PKD still stands and it's not too bad of a ride. King Kobra at PKI, however, is for sale if anyone wants it.
I actually kinda liked Viper to an extent. The problem I had with the ride was the over the shoulder retraints. Instead of rotating down like most do, they were pulled straight down. It was very easy for them to go too low forcing you to slouch in the seat. Going through those inversions while slouched with scrunched up shoulders is what caused the pain for me.
"It was very easy for them to go too low forcing you to slouch in the seat. Going through those inversions while slouched with scrunched up shoulders is what caused the pain for me."
This would only happen if you pulled them down too much in the station initially, as they eventually locked them a second time. Once this happened, you couldn't pull them up or down at all, so at least they couldn't fall down on your during the ride like many other restraints.
I've only ridden a small number of TOGO coasters. I didn't HATE Viper at SFGAdv. It certainly wasn't a fav, but I'd be willing to give it a ride if it was open if the line wasn't long. To me, you had to ride that thing defensively, but it was kinda a powerful ride, as LG said.
As for TOGO standups vs. B&M, the only thing I like better about the TOGO ones is the "seat", which is better padded and more comfortable than the B&M ones.
I also liked that the Viper trains had A LOT of legroom, unlike many of the Arrow looper trains.
I do not possess the "rare Togo Tolerance Gene™" that Gonch and others seem to have, but they're not as awful as some would suggest....except that disaster in Virginia, that one's horrendous (and Ultratwister even dislocated a rib)! *** Edited 8/4/2006 6:00:45 PM UTC by rollergator***
PKD's standup has a different layout that KK and Skyrider, which are similar if I'm not mistaken. I think the ending on Shockwave is more compact than the other 2, and the one turn isn't banked as much.