Thrilling new amusements in SoCal's theme parks

Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:50 PM
Well it does all new trains, paint, name, and effects? Is that where they are coming from when they say "all new"

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Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:30 PM
Soggy's avatar So Alex, if they paint Revolution, get new trains and add flashing lights to the tunnel, could they market it as "all new?" I'm not faulting SFMM on it's tatics exactly, but come on. Paint changes nothing, the new trains don't really affect the actual ride experience, and the effects... well is that why you ride a coaster?

Besides, I don't really consider a 6 year old coaster to be an "old" coaster.


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Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:44 PM
SFMM advertising X2 as "new" is small change compared to how Disney is advertising Toy Story Mania. The commercials say, in print and on TV, that the ride is at the Disneyland Resort. That's technically true of course, but they are pushing park hoppers on the unsuspecting folks who show up to ride TSM at the DL, only to found out that the ride is at DCA. Disney is walking a fine line with this ad campaign.

And, we now have the Simpsons ride - which is essentially a new q, same basic ride as BTTF, just a different theme. Of course, then we have seen DL plus up some rides with either new animatronics, or soundtracks, and advertise that as a "new" experience.

So the GP around here isn't dense, in fact, very used to it by this point.

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Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:10 PM
Mamoosh's avatar I, too, found it odd that Toy Story Mania was advertised as being at the resort, not at California Adventure. Although technically correct the commercial is intentionally misleading and I have major problems with that as well.
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Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:24 PM
Soggy, Revolution is getting a rehab for it's 30th anniversary as i understand and i am sure they will advertise the hell out of it. Why not, you want to see a return in your inverstment.

Point is, that there is no "uproar" about people thinking X2 is a new coaster, only one person on here raised that question. It's not a big deal, X2 is a "all new" experience and people are loving it

The park improved so much in the past year, talking about misleading advertisement, which it is not, is just plain silly

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Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:04 PM
Even if it is, my question is...so what?

Name a company that *doesn't* do this.

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Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:38 PM
Mamoosh's avatar So just because everyone does it, that makes it ok?
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Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:07 PM

Alexatucla said:
Revolution is getting a rehab for it's 30th anniversary as i understand and i am sure they will advertise the hell out of it.

Maybe I'm missing something, but didn't Revolution open in 1976? So it's 30th anniversary was 2006. Or am I just going crazy?

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Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:47 PM

Mamoosh said:
So just because everyone does it, that makes it ok?

Never said it was ok, just a non issue. "Come ride the all new X2". Well it's the same X with new features, just like most yearly car upgrades. Yet they use the same marketing ploys, and most importantly, it works.

I HIGHLY doubt anyone's going to feel duped by this. *** Edited 6/15/2008 11:51:53 PM UTC by DWeaver***

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Monday, June 16, 2008 9:09 AM
Goliath Kills: I think you are right, just read on some other board that the love that Revolution is getting is for the 30th anniversary but i do believe it opend in 1976 aswell

Mamoosh: It's a non issue, nobody thinks, even after the commercial that it is a brand new rollercoaster. Just let it be. People enjoy the ride, park looks great, attendance is way and i mean WAY up. All good

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Monday, June 16, 2008 11:18 AM
Soggy's avatar ^ Alex, did you miss the part where 'Moosh is getting the direct question from his co-workers, family and friends "Are you excited about Magic Mountain's new roller coaster?"

So yes, there obviously are people who DO think there is a new roller coaster at SFMM for 2008. I'll admit that there probably is a vast majority of SoCali peeps who have not been to SFMM and ridden X, and many who have still think it's called "The Extreme." But it doesn't change the fact that there WILL be some people who will get there and realize that X2 is simply a repainted X.

Is there an uproar? No. Are the numbers good? Yes. I hope they keep up the good work and succeed. Who knows, maybe 'Moosh will actually pass through the gates before it's all said and done, but X2 is still not 'New."


Pass da' sizzrup, bro!

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Monday, June 16, 2008 3:06 PM

Alexatucla said:
Crosses the line? lol, what are they supposed to say. Come to Magic Mountain and look at the new trains? I dont see a big uproar about it either. They invested $10 million to improve an existing ride and make it even more memorable, in that regard the improvements are "new".

You are the only one who seems to have a problem with it.

It's not like you dont see the ride before you enter the park, so if someone expects a brand new coaster would easily see that it is not. Why so negative? Makes no sense


People that haven't been to the park this year are going to think they have a new coaster called X^2. Maybe, they will think that they still have X, and they now have an X^2. Six Flags is advertising it as new because they put more money into it, and they want even more attendance at the park.

For instance, they had Goliath, and they had Goliath Jr. Yes, Goliath Jr. is changed to Thomas Town, but it's like the same thing except there is only one coaster - X becomes X^2.

It's yet another Six Flags marketing scheme for this year. They did the family friendly thing which is a joke, The Dark Knight, and they did this ride.


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Monday, June 16, 2008 10:29 PM
I'm pissed that Six Flags is calling X2 all new. They are a bunch of liars and this whole thing is a big issue with me.
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Monday, June 16, 2008 11:00 PM
DantheCoasterman's avatar

Soggy said:
So Alex, if they paint Revolution, get new trains and add flashing lights to the tunnel, could they market it as "all new?" I'm not faulting SFMM on it's tatics exactly, but come on.

Terrible example! If SFMM did that for Revolution, I don't know anyone here that wouldn't KILL to ride it! :)

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Monday, June 16, 2008 11:14 PM
*YAWN* Next thread.
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