This Has Gotten Out Of Hand

well, today was a bad day for me on CBG. every single one of my rides- all 38 uploads- got a zero. this was a very personal attack against me and i dont know why anyone would do that. i dont try to make enemies so i dont know why this would happen. someone must really hate me because to go through and physically rate each of my rides a zero is something that would take some time to do. this is also a rant about the rating system. ive gotten zeros in the past, everyone has, but this is just uncalled for. i think there should be some way to hold the rater accountable such as listing the people who rate the rides and what the rated it. i feel something like that would stop alot of this nonsense.
Jeff's avatar

I'll probably make it so that votes appear on the page with the member.

Until then, if you encounter a problem, email me. I'm tired of reading complaints here. If you're just uploading for ratings, you should reconsider why you upload at all.

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Jeff's avatar

OK... let's see how many people change their votes now. If you're a low-vote rat who does it just to spite people, everybody knows about it now. You're busted!

Visit any file detail to see what I mean...

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
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Great idea. The way I see it, if you are giving an honest opinion about your ratings, you shouldn't be ashamed to see it posted.

As for Funky21, well, he might not like this system. :)

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California Screamin- it's good!

Great job Jeff! Finally something is done, and that's why I like this site.
I'm glad I'm not the only one found Funky21 giving out a zero.

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes
Six Flags Worlds Of Adventure 2002 Ride-Ops Crew (Have Fun Trying To Find Me!)

kpjb's avatar

Every rating I've seen B&M Rocks give so far has been a zero, also. What's the deal?

I tend to give between 4 and 7. If you get an 8 from me, you did a nice job. I think I've only ever given 2 or 3 - 10's.

Anywho, is there a way to select "show member ratings" and leave it on so that I wouldn't have to click it on each page?

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If you could just see the beauty... these things I could never describe. Pleasures and wayward distraction; is this my wonderful prize? --Joy Division

Really? Show me some with zeros??? I will admit, I have given some zeros, but go check again, and you will find 90 percent of my ratings are real.....

I dont know what you are talking about...

EDIT: Oh yea, Funky seems to be a big problem also.

ANyway, I deleted my 10(give or take one or 2) coasters, because i plan on mabye re-uploading a few of them in a couple of months so they get ralistic ratings. And let me tell you, 1 out of every 5 votes my coasters received was a 0.

*** This post was edited by B&M ROCKS on 1/8/2003. ***

Yeah funky 21 seems to be a real troublemaker.

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Coming in 2003-The Spawn Of Magnum!

B&M ROCKS,

It seems as though you and aliensk8er have a grudge for Manz.

--Ryan

Truthfully, I think most of his coasters suck. I really really do. I will be honest, I dont like his coasters at all. No offense...

EDIT: I jst checked, and out of about 10 or so of his coasters I rated, I only gave 3 0's. The rest were between about 2-5. And that was what i thought his coasters deserved.

*** This post was edited by B&M ROCKS on 1/8/2003. ***

Lord Gonchar's avatar

Well, I'm not here to cause problems, becuase quite frankly I don't take the ratings nearly as serious as some do, but I find it rather funny how much many of the coasters ratings have gone up since just this afternoon.

And B&M ROCKS, We can't point them out if you change them. At least 5 of mine had a "0" from you (which is fine) but now most of them are 5's. (which is less than fine if you really meant to give them a zero)

Secondly, it looks to me like the problem wasn't as bad as many made it out to be. I've yet to see someone getting a significant number of "spite zeroes" - it's usually just one and in a few rare occasions it's two. But the thing is we all have them on our highly rated coasters so it essentially cancels itself in comparing ratings among different coasters.

If this stops the worries and complaining then good, but looks like there really wasn't too big of a problem to begin with.

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*** This post was edited by Lord Gonchar on 1/8/2003. ***

And i will not say i didnt do that Lord Gonchar. Give me a chance to explain.

2 of my recent coasters were both sitting on the top 10 with ratings of about 8. Suddenly, the next day they were both at about 7. And at the same time, 2 of your coasters appeared on the top 10, along with 2 of rolerfreak9. So I got very angry, and decided to give you and his recent coasters both 0's. Because i though you two had something to do with it.

Now, with the new rating system, I noticed who gave my coasters 0's. One was Funky21, and then someone else, who i forgot. So, after deleing my coasters, I wnt back and changed your ratings because I nw that you 2 werent the people who gave me the 0's.

Also, about the 5's. That is what I felt those coasters deserved, because they were not that good IMO, and I wasnt really into all the compact stuff.

Is it just me, or does 're-uploading' sound a little like attention-ho behavior? If your creation is that good, it should stay on the all-time top 10 list on its own merits...right?

-'Playa

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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

I've contemplated re-uploading my MF recreation with some small, yet important changes, that would probably make it an even better recreation. I haven't decided if I will or not because the first version is already voted #1, but then again I don't play RCT2 for votes on CoasterBuzz. If such is the case, I guess I will just upload it anyway and just be happy with whether it measures up vote wise or not.

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes
Six Flags Worlds Of Adventure 2002 Ride-Ops Crew (Have Fun Trying To Find Me!)

jeff--

just a question. when it lists the people who voted for a ride, does it list them in any particular order?

Jeff's avatar

No, no particular order.

And B&M Rocks, don't pretend you're innocent. When I started sorting ratings, you had almost the most zeros of anyone while rating other rides (including your own) as 10's. I tossed around the idea of booting you, but gave you the benefit of the doubt.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
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Wow very cool. Thanks Jeff for the change. It is enlightening to go back to older files and look at the individual ratings. It seems the problem has abated in the past few weeks. Less of a problem than I thought, recently. More of a problem than I thought in the past. Overall I think I good idea. The only drawback I see is now some may be less likely to give an honestly low rating due to concerns of how others may perceive that. I guess if they explain it in a comment that would also be overcome.

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Lord Gonchar's avatar

B&M ROCKS, not a problem. If you feel a zero is deserved by all means give it (or whatever you feel is warranted) - it was the sudden change in the ratings after they became public that raised the caution flag for me. No harm done.

I was also glad to see others rate their own coasters. I do. Mostly I give myself tens (however you'll find a few 8's and 9's if you look) I don't see it as "cheating" the system as I obviously think the ride is incredible otherwise I wouldn't have uploaded it. The ones I gave 8's and 9's I knew were flawed but didn't/couldn't improve. I figure if you stay honest, you have nothing to worry about.

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Kick The Sky's avatar

I have to say that I got quite a few zeroes from B&M Rocks too. And bb_dg seems to like to dog my coasters too. And this Funky21, is he still a member? I am glad the ratings are now public and we can actually hold people accountable for their ratings. Perhaps B&M Rocks and bb_dg want to explain themselves???

Add to that list Will Kaner and Micheal Darling who gave me tons of zeroes as well.

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Bob Hansen

A proud CoasterBuzz Member

"Sorry folks, park's closed. The moose out front should've told you."

*** This post was edited by Kick The Sky on 1/9/2003. ***

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