The Legend loaded with brakes?

Tuesday, January 8, 2002 5:50 PM
I was watching Extreme Rides 2001, that I taped from May, and noticed that The Legend at Holiday World seemed to be LOADED with brakes. Are the brakes on, or just there for precautionary reasons. Can someone tell me about the brakes on this coaster everyone seems to love.

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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 5:53 PM
I never noticed any brakes on The Legend. Hymmm...must have been moving too fast...;)
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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 5:56 PM
Legend contains no mid-course brakes on any part of its circuit. Perhaps you were seeing the anti-rollback strips located at the top of a few hills. Most of those have since been removed.

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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:02 PM
No, I know what an anti-rollback strip is, and these didn't appear to be them at all. They look exactly like brakes. Watch Extreme Rides 2001 and you'll know what I mean.

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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:08 PM
Extreme Rides did not show all of Legend.  I happen to be friends with the ACEr giving the play-by-play, Jeff King.  Both he and Paula Werne told me they discovered a problem with the sound after filming and the middle portoion of the ride was left on the cutting room floor.  All viewers saw was from the first drop into the tunnel, then they cut to exiting a tunnel in the helix and back to the brake run.  So, you couldn't have seen the entire ride on the show. 

I'm not sure what you saw but there are NO brakes on Legend other than in the final brake run and in the station.

*** This post was edited by Mamoosh on 1/8/2002. ***

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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:09 PM
There are no brakes on the Legend excpet on the brake run, in fact are there any CCI's with Mid Courses other then Ghostrider?
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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:09 PM
I've seen no brakes on Legend when I rode it last year.  It might just be shadows or something.  Hmm...

Coasterman Mike

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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:16 PM
The Boss has a MCBR. 

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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:16 PM
You should just go to there site. Its www.holidayworld.com and contact them. They reply to all the emails that are sent to them with in a few days. They are very nice people and will answer nearly any question that you may ask. I was talking to them the other day about something, and they said: "Actually, we're replacing the train from The Legend for the coming year.
But the original train is going back to the company that built our coaster."(AKA CCI)

Here is her email address if you want to email her ( mailto:JPWerne@holidayworld.com ) or you can call her at 812-937-5209.

I hope that that will help you answer your questions that you have.

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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:17 PM
The crew left without checking audio? Amateurs.

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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:30 PM
Ok, I am sure I saw brakes, but I will check the video again. Is there anything on the track that may appear to be a brake? Thanks again.
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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:39 PM
Seeing brakes and feeling brakes are two different things. Ride it with us on May 31st and find out! Why else did it shoot halfway into the station on slick rails? :)
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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:53 PM
Maybe you didn't see brakes, but rather saw that much of the track has solid wood planking across the center instead of an opening with track-ties across.

Rest assured, as others have noted, there are NO brakes on Legend except for the calipers immediately uptrack of and in the station. No trims whatsoever. But anywhere you see netting on the sides of the track, there are generally no openings below, either.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:53 PM
Need to get a big screen dude,  No brakes and a promiss that there will be none unless absolutly necessary!

Holiday World Rocks!

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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:54 PM
Yeah, Arrow Guy, I get what you're saying. I saw the brakes, but the coaster (at least from what I could see) didn't slow down at all.

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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 6:58 PM

MagnumForce said:
There are no brakes on the Legend excpet on the brake run, in fact are there any CCI's with Mid Courses other then Ghostrider?
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Does CCI know how to make a bad coaster?

There is at least one,  The Boss.   Also Villain is set up to have one but dosn't due to the fact they are only using two trains.  (One most days)
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Tuesday, January 8, 2002 10:08 PM
Trust me, if the Legend had any brakes it's average ranking would be about as high as another coaster that was originally built for speed and intensity over airtime, Mean Streak...and I don't think I need to elaborate more on that one :-)
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Wednesday, January 9, 2002 6:40 AM
Another reason the Legend has no mid-course brakes:

Holiday World's maintenance man (his name eludes me at the moment) is a madman who is obsessed with making the Legend's cycle time just one more second faster. Adding brakes is not a good way to do that. :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Wednesday, January 9, 2002 7:09 AM
RideMan, his name is Jeff Hammersley (I know I botched that last name, sorry Jeff!) and you're right, he's a madman!

I absolutely cannot wait for SRM this year.  Even though I'm not excited about the G trains leaving, the PTC's are heavier, and therefore, theoretically, should go faster.  A faster Legend, is that even possible? :)

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Wednesday, January 9, 2002 7:25 AM
What you must have seen on Extreme Rides is the anti-rollback strips. We use them in the spring and fall when the weather is chilly and that first test train of the morning just might not make it around. The footage was shot in late September of 2000.

Regarding the audio...that was less than fun. The producer had to use a freelance crew from L.A. at the last minutes, and they did not bring the proper equipment. This year she brought her regular professionals and it made all the difference!

To repeat: There are no mid-course brakes on The Legend or The Raven.

Any other questions? I really do prefer emails--no phone calls, please.

Thanks,  Paula

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Paula Werne
Director of Public Relations
Holiday World & Splashin' Safari
Santa Claus, Ind.
JPWerne@holidayworld.com

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