The effect of "Dragster"

I think you guys are definitely underestimating non enthusiasts. When I go to parks it's always with friends who are non enthusiasts. Believe it or not, their biggest complaints about rides are about the rides being too short. Heck with SFOG as my home park, one of the reasons I started traveling around was because the rides were too short, and this was before I was an enthusiast. The GP will like Dragster (less than MF), but there will be many complaints about it's length. For proof of that just wait until you're in the queue listening to conversations consisting of, "I can't believe you are making me wait two hours for a 10 second ride!"

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"This time I think ... I think it's ... it's going to work!" - Dr.Bruce Banner

i think we all take the good rides for granite and dont appreciate how fun they are. If we stop comparing them to the biggest and best, we will have more fun. So lets all eat some shrooms, hop on a ride, and.....probably forget that we ever rode it

put that in your pipe and smoke it

Wow??? Very insightful, Aliensk8ter???

Granted is the word you wanted to use. I feel sorry for you.

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*** This post was edited by dexter on 12/14/2002. ***

I don't really have any expectations going on a ride so if it blows me away :) If it doesn't CP has lots of other things.

Chuck, Who would be jumping up and down if this thing were made of wood! :)

sarcasm

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Charles Nungester.
Is it about coasters or friends? I say both!

I have very rarely heard peeps who are getting off S:TE complain that it was too short, mainly, I suppose, because they expect it to be short. That and because the GP thinks that anything that high and that fast is awesome despite its length. Add a little more speed and height to Superman with a couple twists and the GP will fall in love with this ride.

I personally love S:TE the way it is... it's just this incredible machine.
Only thing would be if the wait wouldn't be that long and yes.. maybe they could push those cars up the tower a little higher.
But the straight 0 G section is just perfect.
Dragster to me seems like a hybrid between S:TE and Hypersonic XLC, and it will clearly be more thrilling and terryfying than S:TE.
However, there probably won't be a relaxing 0G parts in Dragster the way that S:TE has one. Just when you could just let go, you'll either be spun around by the vertical rolls or you'll be ejector-airtimed at the top.
It will be one adrenalin kicking ride from start to the bottom of the tower.
The almost-suicide-thrill aspect is much stronger in Dragster than in S:TE.

Its funny how the "enthusiests" are the first ones to complain that Cedar Point is getting the tallest coaster.

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IMO the General Public will love this ride. It seems to me that the GP likes to ride big rides a lot of times just to say that they did. Enthusiasts on the other hand, would rather ride high quality rides than rides that are just big and fast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that this ride won't be high quality, but the sheer hight of it will probably blow away the GP.

Take for example, an enthusiest and a GP member go to Holiday World and ride the Raven. The Enthusiest is probably going to be a lot more blown away than the member of the GP. On the contrary, after riding Dragster, the GP person would probably be more blown away.

Just my 2 cents anyway.

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I am a not a big fan of one trick ponies. I really don't like them. But if you take the best damn "one-trick" possible and throw it out there i imagine that it will be a ride worth riding. Even if you prefer a ride with more to it. If it's anything like MF's first then we have the potential. Because to me that drop if one of the most intense moments around right now.

Will it be my number one? I don't think so at this moment. Can it be the single most intense element? Maybe. And that is what will bring me to the ride in May.

Personally, I am sick of all the Enthusiast/GP comparisons in here. I consider myself and enthusiast. Have a pretty descent track record, study and learn all the new coasters, and yet, I think #16 is gonna be bada*$.... I may not like it better than MF, but dang, I have already had a dream that I was on that thing and blacked out.. If that can do, what Supermn at SFWoA did to me the first time.. Its a good thing in my book! And will stay there!

All I am trying to say is that lets not compare Enthusiasts to GP. Thats as bad as the posts Jeff closes comparing parks etc...

Thank you!

I'm quite excited about this ride. The highest I've been is 208', but I get to go to Cedar Point this year! But yes, I think this coaster will get a lot of attention from both the public and us, even if it is short.

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I lost my hat on Poison Ivy. How pathetic.

I'm probably gonna still like Millennium Force better. Although its hard to decide becuase I can't imagine how that luanch is going to look and feel. I'll see when I ride it, but for now I'm guessing I'll like Millennium Force better becuase it's longer.

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IOArules said:

When I go to parks it's always with friends who are non enthusiasts. Believe it or not, their biggest complaints about rides are about the rides being too short.

The best and perhaps strangest example of this I have encountered is the Nemesis Vs Oblivion opinions I hear from non-enthusiasts (normally people I work with).

Most people I have spoken to prefer Oblivion because "Nemesis is too short". It seems in my experience that if the coaster LOOKS short (i.e., Oblivion), length is rarely a complaint. Nemesis looks normal length-wise, so I think a lot of people are dissapointed when it is over in a moment.

Has anyone else experienced this?

*** This post was edited by Marcus Sheen on 12/22/2002. ***

I really wonder if the small wheels on the intamin trains will really be able to handle the heat they will get from the friction at that speed.
On S:TE the wheels are much bigger for that reason.
I bet this ride will have some downtime due to wheel-meltdown.

dexter said:

Wow??? Very insightful, Aliensk8ter???
Granted is the word you wanted to use. I feel sorry for you.
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*** This post was edited by dexter on 12/14/2002. ***

What arrogant webs we weave... aliensk8ter has the right idea despite mispelling a word. Most of you on here sound more like coaster analysts and experts rather than enthusiasts.

What ride ops say at enthusiast events:

"Please keeps your arms inside the car at all times. Shut the hell up and enjoy your ride."

If they really did say that, I wouldn't blame them. Some people on this website are too critical if you mis-spell a damn word. We aren't all english teachers, and not even all english teachers are good spellers. Spelling does not reflect your intelligence at all, anyways.

I think most coaster enthusiasts complain way, way more than they should have to. Just a simple friendly correction is all it takes when it comes to a mistake.

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1)Raptor's
2)Deja Vu's (times 3)
3)Batman Knight Flight's

Superman, they probley redesigned the trains to accomodate larger wheels, or they are using a certain mixture. But think about it, MF is running that speed off from 93 till 65.. #16 will hit the top speed, slow down, hit it again, and slow down again. But I guess it doesnt matter if they use the larger wheels on superman like you said.

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